RE: IBM pushing Java

["rpopeil" <Russ.Popeil@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

You hit the nail on the head. We all need to try and bring a higher level of
competency to our Profession. I believe that all code should have a walkthru
at minimum just to make sure that someone else can understand it, and to
make sure some obscure coding technique is not used.
Standards,Standards,Standards :-)

Russ Popeil
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From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Simon Coulter
Sent: Monday, March 29, 1999 9:13 AM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: RE: IBM pushing Java



Hello Russ,

Well said!  Not enough shops (in fact, sod all) perform peer reviews.  They
all should (except
possibly one-man shops) because (in no particular order):

1/ It ensures shop standards are met.

2/ It ensures the program is reasonably close to the specification

3/ It allows junior programmers to learn from the more experienced ("Oh,
yeah, that was a bit
silly wasn't it?")

4/ It allows senior programers to learn from the juniors ("When did that
op-code appear?")

There should be reviews at all stages of development:

a/ Specification review
b/ Pseudo code review
c/ Code review
d/ test plan review

Of course all this needs to be budgeted and persuading management that it's
necessary is
harder than it should be.

Regards,
Simon Coulter.

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> his seems more a need of shop standards and programmer management, and
code
> reviews alas not usually done in small shops.
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> Russ Popeil
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of nina jones
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 1999 12:52 PM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: IBM pushing Java
>
>
> > other hand, some languages lend themselves to this better than others.
> > As an example, I remember a COBOL program written by a fellow student
> > in university 20 years ago.  It was the most easy to read program I'd
> > ever seen and there were no comments in it.  This student graduated
> > at the top of his class and I doubt if he ever wrote another COBOL
> > program since!
>
> i think some people's programming style is easier to follow than others.
> doesn't
> really matter on the language.  well, maybe some!
>
> years ago, we inherited a client that used a lady that did not do anything
> straight forward.  in frustration, once i asked how on earth she handled
> fixing
> problems.  they said she'd list her programs, go in the conference room,
> spread
> them out, and color code them.
>
> i like code that you can look at and follow, that has relevent, up to date
> comments - with explainations before major sections of code as to what
it's
> for,
> and routines sectioned off.  and one more pet peeve - old commented out
> code.  if
> you don't need it, get rid of it!
>
> this week i was in california, and had to debug a program written by our
> favorite
> former employee (haha).  he'd done some modifications for them last
summer,
> and
> it had never worked correctly!   i had to weed thru 10 pages of tricky
code,
> without a single comment.  a 3 excedrin special.
>
> nj
>
>
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