Re: Managing AS/400 students

Fritz,

My company is the AS/400 Partners in Development sponsor for Bergen Community
College in Paramus, NJ.  I teach an AS/400 Introduction class there.  You can
visit our class web site at:

http://www.sbsusa.com/it107/

Set them up with user class *sysopr or *pgmr (as appropriate for the course). 
They can view system values, but not touch!  The first night, explain that if
they mess with system objects, you will see it in the audit log.  Explain very
plainly that any unauthorized use of RMV, DEL, CHG,etc. will result in
immediate failure in the course!

If you are interested, contact me individually & I can send you our student
setup & signon routines.  I also use these to demonstrate CL Programs in the
"Introduction to CL Programming" section.

In my opinion, you should NEVER have academic computing & administration
running on the same server (just like we separate systems development &
administration in our company).  That would be like having an alcoholic working
as a bartender!!  It's too easy to overlook a security detail or to have a
student "unintentially" do something which would compromise the business
operations of the college!

Hope this helps!

John Myers
IBM Certified Specialist - AS/400 Technical Solutions
Strategic Business Systems, Inc.
300 Lake Street, Suite B, Ramsey, NJ 07446  USA
E-mail: mailto:jmyers@sbsusa.com   Phone: +1 (201) EASY 400   x131
Web:    http://www.sbsusa.com      Fax:   +1 (201) 327-6984

Instant AS/400 Web Guestbooks & Internet Surveys - WebSurvey/400
     http://www.sbsusa.com/internet/inpuzsvy.htm

Prove that your shipment got there - Proof of Delivery!
     http://www.sbsusa.com/docmgmt/dmsol4u.htm


At 05:07 PM 2/28/99 -0800, you wrote: 
>
> Hi All,
>  
> Well, the local Community College, (Portland Community College) is finally
> installing a Model 170 and getting set to teach pure AS/400 classes.  So now,
> how to manage all those beginning programers and system admin types.  What
> authority levels should we choose?  How do we teach folks about things like
> System Values without screwing up the machine? Should we keep school
> administration stuff on this machine?
>  
> Hey, all comments and suggestions are welcome!
>  
>  
> Fritz Hayes
> <mailto:fhayes@spiritone.com>fhayes@spiritone.com



+---
| This is the Midrange System Mailing List!
| To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com.
| To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com.
| To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com.
| Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com
+---