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Neil, In a message dated 98-03-20 17:15:30 EST, you write: <<snip>> > I know how IBM must feel - not matter what you do you can't please everyone. > I mean there are those (myself included) who DID install V4R1 before Feb > 27th and are very pleased about this announcement, BUT I think > eventually IBM is going to have to give in on this and waive the V4R2 > LPP upgrade charges for everyone. > > > Anyway, that's my opinion - of course I could be wrong. :-) Hey, it happens ;-)! However, I agree with both your and an earlier post that it appears that IBM is _intentionally_ trying to hack off customers -- both new and existing. I know they're not, but that's the way it comes across. In business, perception is 9/10's of the law. All of us "bitched and raised hell" when the previously free and quite effective support line became the "charged for and not worth a plug nickle" support line. IBM eventually rectified the support line competency situation, but not without a great deal of "wailing and knashing of teeth" on the part of customers. Then we raised cane about the upgrade fees for OS/400 -- fell on deaf ears, and now we have to pay _AGAIN_??!! CHGSYSVAL RANT(*ON) I'm sorry, but after _YEARS_ of convincing former /36 and /38 accounts to regularly upgrade OS versions and apply PTF's (these didn't work particularly well on the aforementioned platforms, if you recall), this has been a slap in the face (_especially_ in light of the V3R1 fiasco). These small accounts don't _CARE_ that the OS/400 development group has been split out into an IBM "cost center" since they purchased their machines -- all they know is that "our good buddy Dean has been keeping us up-to-date for a nominal fee until now". Their once-simple questions of "why should we upgrade when the system is working fine?" were easily answered with "because you get new functionality that I can use to improve _my_ delivery of service, and besides it's free" are now not so easily answered. TCP/IP support is _GREAT_, but if you don't need it, you don't friggin' _need_ it. Same for ILE/RPG. Now my only response can be "because IBM is about to drop support and dog the tee-waddin' out of you if you _don't_ upgrade"? What the heck kind of strategy is _this_? Small CISC users now have the "deer in the headlights" attitude -- "Why upgrade to V3R2? Our systems work fine as is, we _cannot_ afford a RISC upgrade, and once we go to V3R2 we're stuck with a version that will _NEVER_ be enhanced". Y2K arguments don't go far when they see V3R7 users getting charged again for software that they already purchased, but consideration of other platforms _DOES_. CHGSYSVAL RANT(*OFF) Thanks, I feel better now... Dean Asmussen Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc. Fuquay-Varina, NC USA E-Mail: DAsmussen@aol.com "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody." -- Bill Cosby +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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