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** Reply to note from qappdsn@ibm.net Sat, 31 Jan 1998 18:34:38 -0800 > But I think the bastardization of language use (driving a nail with a > wrench...shame on you) is why we see new languages like JAVA popping up. > It's our never ending quest for the software version of a holy grail or > unified theory. > > The point I was trying to make though was that under a new design > construct (ILE vs OPM) the previously used and very familiar languages > may have to be left behind. I've got no real bones to pick about CL, nor > am I in love with it. I didn't miss JCL leaving the S/360 for S/3x OCL > and didn't pine for that when CL was the language de jour. I think that there is a lot of power you can add to an application by using CL. A programmer who does not know CL might hack similar functions into an RPG application. The trade off here is that the programmer must go to extra effort as a result of a lack of familiarity with the other language. I'm not sure I see that changing under the ILE paradigm. Am I missing something? Doesn't ILE CL allow for you bind CL program modules to RPG ones to further enhance the integration? By the way, I still miss the OCL IF ACTIVE- test. It's a lot of work to do the same thing on the 400! But in a language like Java, system objects are just objects. If there is an interface to that object, then it is useable. It isn't as if someone built a language to have features of RPG (or C) and CL, it is just a natural facet of an object oriented environment/language that all objects are equally accessable. I'd also like to point out that looking at Java as a language is a little like looking at the AS/400 as a hardware platform. > I believe a response was posted to the above mentioned proud poster not > to put too much of your talent into a language that has nowhere else to > go. I tend to agree. Should the powers that be decide a new chip requires > a new language to take advantage of all of it's features one would find > themselves with yesterdays code. Not a good thing. :( I don't think that any of us has the guarantee that our skills won't be displaced. As we watch NT gain in market share we can all be seeing a required change in skill sets. But while I am coding on an AS/400 I will use whatever features and tools are available to do the best possible job of making use of AS/400 features. CL, RPG, Java, whatever's in the bag. I wish I knew more CL, every time I use it I end up doing more with it than I thought I could when I started. > Regards, James W. Kilgore qappdsn@ibm.net Chris Rehm Mr.AS400@ibm.net How often can you afford to be unexpectedly out of business? Get an AS/400. +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to "MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com". | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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