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I haven't seen this on the list, so I'm resending my reply. -- ... Neil Palmer AS/400~~~~~ ... NxTrend Technology - Canada ____________ ___ ~ ... Markham, Ontario, Canada |OOOOOOOOOO| ________ o|__||= ... Phone: (905) 731-9000 x238 |__________|_|______|_|______) ... url:http://www.nxtrend.com oo oo oo oo OOOo=o\ ... mailto:npalmer@nxtrend.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- Subject: Re: Future of *M36
- From: Neil Palmer <npalmer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:02:18 -0400
- Organization: NxTrend Technology - Canada
boothm@earth.goddard.edu wrote: > > Is this enough machine to replace an old Sys/36, model 5362 that has about > 12 to 15 devices and is still under maintenance? The catch with the Base model 150 is that it supports only 7 twinax addresses. The growth model 150 supports 14 addresses, has a faster processor, and comes with 64MB of memory instead of 32MB. Price is US$ 10,500 (again, you NEED a UPS). Note that the model 150's come with a SINGLE 4GB disk - so disk contention can be an issue for some users/applications (you can add extra 4GB disks up to a maximum of 4). If you need more that 14 twinax addresses (and you can't get around the limitation with passthru or Tokenring/Ethernet connections), you would need to look at the 9402 Model 400 Base model with 2130 processor has a maximum OS/400 license charge of 5 users. A 400-2130 Entry Package with 64MB RAM, 8 port Twinax expansion, 2.5GB 1/4" tape (about 3.5GB with compression), & a SINGLE 1967MB disk and the BasePak software (OS/400, Query, SQL, CA/400) is US$ 16,043. That price includes the US$3500 for ValuePak software, and US$ 848 for a BEST Fortress 675va UPS. For those who asked about performance: Model RPR (old) rating CPW (new) V3R7 (if RISC) rating AS/400 9404 B10 1.0 2.9 F10 3.4 9.6 F25 4.8 13.7 AS/400 9401 150 Twinax (0181) n/a 10.9 ** 150 Twinax (0182) n/a 10.9 ** AS/400 9402 400-2130 4.1 13.8 400-2131 6.1 20.6 400-2132 8.7 27.0 400-2133 10.9 33.3 ** The 150 performance rating may limited by DASD performance & 96MB memory maximum. (more disk arms would help). Unrestrained CPW rating is 27.0 for the 0181, and 33.3 for the 0182. This is from the 150 announcement letter: DESCRIPTION AS/400 Advanced Entry Model 150 Hardware/Software Packages Capacity Summary Twinax Twinax Server Server Entry Growth Entry Growth (0181) (0182) (0183) (0184) ------ ------ ------ ------ Packages BasePaK BasePak BasePak BasePak Performance CPW Rating (4) 10.9 (5) 10.9 (5) Main Storage (MB) Minimum/Maximum 32/96 64/96 32/96 64/96 DASD Storage (GB) Minimum 4.194 4.194 4.194 4.194 Total DASD 16.7 16.7 16.7 16.7 Tape and Internal Optional Attachments (Max/System) 1/4-Inch Cartridge Tape 1 1 1 1 CD-ROM 1 1 1 1 Physical Packaging PCI I/O Card Slots (1) 5 5 5 5 Integrated PC Server and Bridge Card slots 2 2 2 2 Workstation Attach (Max) Twinaxial Controllers 1 1 0/1 0/1 Twinaxial Devices 7 14 0 Std 0 Std 7 Opt 14 Opt Communication Lines (Max) 5 5 5 (3) 5 (3) Integrated PC Server 0/1 0/1 0/1 1 LAN IOA (2) 0/2 0/2 1/2 1/2 Integrated PC Server LAN (Max) 2 2 2 2 MFIOP LAN (Max) 1 1 1 1 Notes: 1 Two slots are reserved for Integrated PC Server. Three are driven by the MFIOP 2 A maximum of one LAN can be driven off MFIOP, none if Integrated PC Server installed 3 Six lines total. One is dedicated to client/access console 4 For environments unconstrained by memory or DASD, the CPW values below may be achievable. The Commercial Processing Workload (CPW) benchmark is a way to show the total system performance capacity in a traditional commercial processing environment. Due to the maximum memory requirements of CPW, the systems with the Growth processor (as in Packages 0182 and 0184) will receive the same CPW rating as systems with the Entry processor. Using other workloads, e.g., some client/server environments where processing demands are higher, the Growth processor can improve throughput over the Entry processor. The CPW of a system without any memory or DASD constraints could be: Packages Entry Growth 0181/0183 0182/0184/0185 ------- -------------- Unconstrained CPW Rating 27.0 33.3 > In <199705302101.RAA00172@mailserver.ttec.com>, on 05/30/97 > at 05:01 PM, Mark Lazarus <mlazarus@ttec.com> said: > > #>Under V3R7 the Model 150 also supports *M36. -- ... Neil Palmer AS/400~~~~~ ... NxTrend Technology - Canada ____________ ___ ~ ... Markham, Ontario, Canada |OOOOOOOOOO| ________ o|__||= ... Phone: (905) 731-9000 x238 |__________|_|______|_|______) ... url:http://www.nxtrend.com oo oo oo oo OOOo=o\ ... mailto:npalmer@nxtrend.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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