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Bravo! some of those consultants I mentioned in a previous email couldn't even code a descent query.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [MIDRANGE-JOBS] MIDRANGE-JOBS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 180


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> From: bestjobs
>
> I can speak from experience - it IS very hard to find IT workers, local or
> not, that have the specific skills employers want - which right now is
> java
> or c#. I'm sorry, but it is not about trying to find a foreign worker at
> a
> depressed wage - it is about trying to find someone with the skills.
> Employers want to bring someone in who already possesses the skills they
> need as it is expensive and time consuming to train people that don't.
> Some
> day java programmers will have a hard time finding a job because there
> will
> be a new 'whizbang' language that has replaced it. It is difficult in IT
> to keep up one's skills but marketability absolutely depends on it. We
> are
> in a global economy - like it or not. If someone in India, Pakistan,
> China,
> etc has the skills a company needs then they are going to find an easier
> time finding a job than a local person who does not have the specific
> skills
> required for the job. I hate it but it is true.

I don't want to spend a lot of time in this discussion. Those of you who
know me know I'm probably just to the conservative side of Lou Dobbs when it
comes to visa issues.

But can we please try to keep the subject on point here? This list is about
midrange jobs, and we're not talking about Java or C# jobs. We're talking
about RPG jobs being taken by visa programmers.

I defy you to tell me there aren't skilled RPG programmers available in the
US. And yet companies like TCS make tons of money providing consultants for
RPG jobs. So please take the Java and C# discussion elsewhere. We're
talking specifically about people being brought into this country to
undercut the market for skilled RPG programmers.

And I won't even get pulled into the global economy nonsense. It's
impossible for countries such as America to compete when they have to
subsidize things like health care and OSHA and all the other things that
make life liveable. If you think it's a global economy and everybody's on a
level playing field, feel free to move to one of these "emerging economies"
and tell us how nice it is to live there.

Joe

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