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Well, that would certainly be neat, but I have attended COMMON in the
past, and the MAPICS attendees would be a fairly small fraction of the
attendance.   Now if one immediately followed the other at the same
venue.....  hmmmm - that would be interesting.  Of course, then the
problem would still be cost and time spent away from the company.

Actually, one of the biggest problems I have at the MAPICS conference is
being able to see all the sessions that I want to see, and also have
enough time in the expo center.





Don <dr2@cssas400.com>
Sent by: mapics-l-admin@midrange.com
08/28/01 09:07 PM
Please respond to mapics-l


        To:     mapics-l@midrange.com
        cc:
        Subject:        Re: re[2]: MAPICS and COMMON




what if the 2 conferences were to merge?

Think of the synergy.....:)



On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 DaleGindlesperger@fft-inc.com wrote:

>
> I'm in the same boat as you - I can only attend one or the other.  I
choose
> the MAPICS conference, as I get sufficient (for me) information on the
> AS/400 (sorry, I-Series) and other IBM information from my affiliate and
> trade periodicals, but only the MAPICS conference gives me all the scoop
on
> what's new with MAPICS, what direction they are going in (such as Power
> Architecture), easy access to add-on vendors, and good tips from other
> customers and consultants.
>
> We run our business with MAPICS, and I do more MAPICS upgrades than I do
> AS/400 (I-Series) upgrades.  With that in mind, the MAPICS User
Conference
> is a better value to the company than COMMON.
>
>
>
>
>
>                     gcrane@johansonmf
>                     g.com                    To: mapics-l@midrange.com
>                     Sent by:                 cc:
>                     mapics-l-admin@mi        Subject:     Re: re[2]:
MAPICS and COMMON
>                     drange.com
>
>
>                     08/28/01 05:29 PM
>                     Please respond to
>                     mapics-l
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I sure as heck did not want to start a war on MAPICS User Conference vs
> COMMON....my original question was whether or not the people on this
list
> want
> MAPICS Sessions to be given at COMMON.  Of course, COMMON can never
replace
> the
> MAPICS User Conference nor does it intend to.  The question at large is
to
> try
> to find out if the Users of MAPICS software are limited by their
companies
> to
> only be allowed to attend one conference per year (such as me).  If they
> are
> limited to one conference per year, then a choice is necessary to be
made -
> which one to attend?.  Now if COMMON has some sessions of MAPICS, then
it
> may be
> the selection of choice.   Or the other possible choice is to alternate
1
> year
> MAPICS, 1 year COMMON....but with the speed of the changing business
> environment
> that seems not a great choice.    So, IMHO, MAPICS sessions at COMMON is
> great!
>
>
>
>
>
> Lisa Weaver <lweaver@guidetechnologies.com> on 08/28/2001 09:37:54 AM
>
> Please respond to mapics-l@midrange.com
>
> To:   mapics discussion board <MAPICS-L@midrange.com>
> cc:    (bcc: Gail L Crane/Johanson/JMC)
>
> Subject:  re[2]: MAPICS and COMMON
>
>
>
> I am a consultant with Guide, a Mapics affiliate. I am trying to sell
> nothing.
> I've been following the discussions about User Conference vs COMMON.  I
> must
> disagree with some of the statements about the Mapics User Conference
being
> designed soley as a "Sales" conference.  There are 3 full days of
break-out
> sessions available to attendees.  Never, as a user or as a consultant,
have
> I
> been disappointed that I didn't learn something.  In fact, the
information
> I've
> obtained there over the years has more than paid for the cost of the
> conferences
> and all my expenses.  This past year, I happened to be a presenter for
one
> of
> those sessions...I didn't even talk about MAPICS.  There are usually
> between
> 1500 and 2000 attendees...most users.  It is a huge opportunity to
network
> with
> other users.  I'm sure that COMMON is very good.  I'm also POSITIVE that
> there
> are people at COMMON trying to sell you something.
>
> Lisa Cohen Weaver
> Consultant Manager
> Guide Technologies, L.L.C.
> 6502 Constitution Drive
> Fort Wayne, IN  46804
> 219-459-7641
> Fax 219-459-2127
> lweaver@guidetechnologies.com
>
> > I agree with Eric.    MAPICS conference is a Sales conference designed
to
> get you to buy more Apps.   Save your money and attend COMMON.
>
> Greg Wenzloff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DaleGindlesperger@fft-inc.com
> [mailto:DaleGindlesperger@fft-inc.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 1:58 PM
> To: mapics-l@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: MAPICS and COMMON
>
>
>
> Eric,
>
> I have to disagree a little regarding MAPICS being just a sales show - I
> attend several "customer solutions" sessions each year, and have given a
> couple.  I agree, the customer solutions are usually excellent - it is
> always good to see how people use the software to solve problems and how
> they may have implemented the apps in a (perhaps) unusual or different
way.
> Yes, there are "sales sessions" to show the new stuff (which there has
been
> a whole lot of lately!), but I find them necessary to see what all we
can
> do with the new stuff - especially the new "Power Architecture" stuff.
> Without the sales sessions at the conference, I don't know how I'd get
> enough good information on the new apps and features.
>
> I personally find the tech expo at the conferences to be VERY valuable.
> Last year's was the best yet - I liked that they expanded the hours from
> prior years.  However, I'd like to have it open even more, especially
the
> area where you can talk to the MAPICS developers/support people and try
out
> the new apps at the kiosks.  Is that what you mean by needing more
"hands
> on?"
>
> I'd like them to have some roundtables with users also - for things like
> their e-business strategies, effectively implementing some of the
Browser
> apps, Supply Chain Management, etc.  Then we could get multiple
company's
> solutions in one session.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                     "Eric Wolf"
>                     <eric_a_wolf@hotm        To: mapics-l@midrange.com
>                     ail.com>                 cc:
>                     Sent by:                 Subject:     MAPICS and
COMMON
>                     mapics-l-admin@mi
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>
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>                     08/18/01 01:25 PM
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>                     mapics-l
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>
>
>
>
> Gail,
>
> I think that COMMON and the MAPICS conferences serve different purposes.
> COMMON gives IT departments the opportunity to keep up-to-date with the
IBM
> technologies, as well as, other technologies.
>
> The MAPICS Conference, on the other hand,introduces users to new
> applications, how other users are using MAPICS and 3rd party
enhancements
> that they may not be aware of. What the MAPICS conference does not offer
is
> "hands-on" sessions like they did in the past. It has become more of a
> "sales" conference instead of the User Conference.  They also need more
> users to speak on how they solved their problems using MAPICS.
>
> Eric A. Wolf
> Midrange Implementation Specialists
> eric_a_wolf@hotmail.com  -or- ericw@midrangespecialists.com
>
>
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