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Re: JDBC Insert Performance

Paul,

if you have a look at the time, the inserts need, there must be another 
problem.

Dieter

On Wednesday 09 July 2003 16:16, you wrote:
> Allen,
>
> In terms of SQL insert performance, could you code your data load
> application so it did something like a "Insert into lib.file (a, b, c)
> (select a, b , c  from lib2.file2)"  ????
>
>  From my days as a DB2/400 developer, I know this would reduce the Open
> Data Paths and much of the work could be done below the MI.
>
> You can obviously tweek your SQL code to do transformations of data values,
> etc using the full power of SQL....
>
> Just a thought.  -Paul
>
> At 02:50 AM 7/9/2003 -0500, you wrote:
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> >    2. RE: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance (Joe Pluta)
> >    3. RE: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance (Allen)
> >    4. RE: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance (Allen)
> >    5. JDBC Connection to V4R1 (Mahmood, Anwar (Cognizant))
> >    6. Re: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance (Joe Sam Shirah)
> >    7. Re: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance (Allen)
> >    8. Re: JDBC Connection to V4R1 (Dieter Bender)
> >    9. Re: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance (Dieter Bender)
> >   10. RE: JDBC Connection to V4R1 (Mahmood, Anwar (Cognizant))
> >
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >message: 1
> >date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:07:28 -0500
> >from: "Hall, Philip" <phall@xxxxxxxx>
> >subject: RE: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance
> >
> > > I am using the JT/Open toolkit JDBC driver.  I'm using
> > > Prepared Statements >\
> >
> >Have you compared using non-prepared statements ? I know for SQL server it
> >was actually slower using prepared statements, than dynamically building
> >the SQL in a string buffer for each row.
> >
> >Also, bulk loading is the fastest, but only SQLServer offers a SQL
> >statement to do it.
> >
> >In DB2 you use the db2 command line and the LOAD sub-command, Oracle uses
> >the sqlldr command.
> >
> >--phil
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >message: 2
> >date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:19:40 -0500
> >from: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >subject: RE: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance
> >
> > > From: Allen
> > >
> > > I need to insert 180,000 rows into an AS/400 table
> > > within a 4 hour period.  Currently the best I can do
> > > will come in at 8 hours.  I am pretty sure that I
> > > should be able to at least double this speed.
> > >
> > > I am using the JT/Open toolkit JDBC driver.
> >
> >Have you tried using the RLA classes rather than JDBC?  RLA tends to
> > perform better in certain circumstances, and inserts are one of those
> > areas in particular where RLA excels.
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >message: 3
> >date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:17:52 -0700 (PDT)
> >from: Allen <tayal01@xxxxxxxxx>
> >subject: RE: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance
> >
> >
> >I am using a single connection for all the work.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Allen.
> >
> >--- "Bartell, Aaron L. (TC)"
> >
> ><ALBartell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Are you pooling your connections?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Allen [mailto:tayal01@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:59 PM
> > > To: j400-l
> > > Subject: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I need to insert 180,000 rows into an AS/400 table
> > > within a 4 hour period.  Currently the best I can do
> > > will come in at 8 hours.  I am pretty sure that I
> > > should be able to at least double this speed.
> > >
> > > I am using the JT/Open toolkit JDBC driver.  I'm
> > > using
> > > Prepared Statements and I'm commiting after each
> > > batch
> > > of 250 rows.  The odd thing is that batching up the
> > > commits at 250 rows doesn't appear to be any faster
> > > than single row commits.
> > >
> > > Is there anything I need to do on the AS/400 to
> > > improve performance?  Will changing the isolation
> > > level of my JDBC connection make any difference?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Allen.
> > >
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> >message: 4
> >date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:21:26 -0700 (PDT)
> >from: Allen <tayal01@xxxxxxxxx>
> >subject: RE: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance
> >
> >
> >I don't have a choice with the PreparedStatement type.
> >  I'm surprised to hear that a prepared statement with
> >bind variables might be less efficient on SQL Server
> >than a dynamic statement which would have to be fully
> >parsed and qualified before execution.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Allen.
> >
> >--- "Hall, Philip" <phall@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > I am using the JT/Open toolkit JDBC driver.  I'm
> > >
> > > using
> > >
> > > > Prepared Statements >\
> > >
> > > Have you compared using non-prepared statements ? I
> > > know for SQL server it was actually slower using
> > > prepared statements, than dynamically building the
> > > SQL in a string buffer for each row.
> > >
> > > Also, bulk loading is the fastest, but only
> > > SQLServer offers a SQL statement to do it.
> > >
> > > In DB2 you use the db2 command line and the LOAD
> > > sub-command, Oracle uses the sqlldr command.
> > >
> > > --phil
> > >
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> >message: 5
> >date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:01:07 +0530
> >from: "Mahmood, Anwar (Cognizant)" <MANWAR@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >subject: JDBC Connection to V4R1
> >
> >Hi,
> >I want to make a JDBC connection from a unix m/c to an AS/400 V4R1. I'll
> >be grateful if someone can tell me the pre requisites for that. I am
> >trying with jt400 and all the PTF's installed in AS/400. But still i am
> >not able to make the connection.
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >regards,
> >Anwar
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> >message: 6
> >date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 02:43:42 -0400
> >from: "Joe Sam Shirah" <jshirah@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >subject: Re: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance
> >
> >
> >     Hi Allen,
> >
> >     There's probably quite a lot that can be done, but from the
> > information given, the only thing that can be said with certainty is that
> > the native driver should be faster IF, of course, the application is
> > running on the '400.  Any particular basis for being "pretty sure" you
> > can double the speed?
> >
> > > Is there anything I need to do on the AS/400 to
> > > improve performance?
> >
> >     Probably, but we have no information about the data or your
> > application.
> >
> > > Will changing the isolation
> > > level of my JDBC connection make any difference?
> >
> >     Yes.
> >
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> >
> >     No.
> >
> >
> >                                                          Joe Sam
> >
> >Joe Sam Shirah -        http://www.conceptgo.com
> >conceptGO         -        Consulting/Development/Outsourcing
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> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Allen" <tayal01@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> >To: "j400-l" <java400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:59 PM
> >Subject: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance
> >
> > > I need to insert 180,000 rows into an AS/400 table
> > > within a 4 hour period.  Currently the best I can do
> > > will come in at 8 hours.  I am pretty sure that I
> > > should be able to at least double this speed.
> > >
> > > I am using the JT/Open toolkit JDBC driver.  I'm using
> > > Prepared Statements and I'm commiting after each batch
> > > of 250 rows.  The odd thing is that batching up the
> > > commits at 250 rows doesn't appear to be any faster
> > > than single row commits.
> > >
> > > Is there anything I need to do on the AS/400 to
> > > improve performance?  Will changing the isolation
> > > level of my JDBC connection make any difference?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Allen.
> > >
> > > =====
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >message: 7
> >date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 00:02:09 -0700 (PDT)
> >from: Allen <tayal01@xxxxxxxxx>
> >subject: Re: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance
> >
> >
> >Joe,
> >
> >--- Joe Sam Shirah <jshirah@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >     Hi Allen,
> > >
> > >     There's probably quite a lot that can be done,
> > > but from the information
> > > given, the only thing that can be said with
> > > certainty is that the native
> > > driver should be faster IF, of course, the
> > > application is running on the
> > > '400.  Any particular basis for being "pretty sure"
> > > you can double the
> > > speed?
> >
> >I truly believe that I should be seeing a noticeable
> >performance benefit from batching my commits.
> >
> > > > Is there anything I need to do on the AS/400 to
> > > > improve performance?
> > >
> > >     Probably, but we have no information about the
> > > data or your application.
> >
> >What sort of information would you like?
> >
> > > > Will changing the isolation
> > > > level of my JDBC connection make any difference?
> > >
> > >     Yes.
> >
> >So what is the best for an INSERT scenario?
> >
> > > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > >
> > >     No.
> >
> >Sorry no control over this.  :-)
> >
> > >     Joe Sam
> > >
> > > Joe Sam Shirah -        http://www.conceptgo.com
> > > conceptGO         -
> > > Consulting/Development/Outsourcing
> > > Java Filter Forum:
> > > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/
> > > Just the JDBC FAQs: http://www.jguru.com/faq/JDBC
> > > Going International?
> > > http://www.jguru.com/faq/I18N
> > > Que Java400?
> > > http://www.jguru.com/faq/Java400
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Allen" <tayal01@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "j400-l" <java400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:59 PM
> > > Subject: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance
> > >
> > > > I need to insert 180,000 rows into an AS/400 table
> > > > within a 4 hour period.  Currently the best I can
> > >
> > > do
> > >
> > > > will come in at 8 hours.  I am pretty sure that I
> > > > should be able to at least double this speed.
> > > >
> > > > I am using the JT/Open toolkit JDBC driver.  I'm
> > >
> > > using
> > >
> > > > Prepared Statements and I'm commiting after each
> > >
> > > batch
> > >
> > > > of 250 rows.  The odd thing is that batching up
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > commits at 250 rows doesn't appear to be any
> > >
> > > faster
> > >
> > > > than single row commits.
> > > >
> > > > Is there anything I need to do on the AS/400 to
> > > > improve performance?  Will changing the isolation
> > > > level of my JDBC connection make any difference?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Allen.
> > > >
> > > > =====
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > __________________________________
> > > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> >
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> >------------------------------
> >
> >message: 8
> >date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:24:56 +0200
> >from: Dieter.Bender@xxxxxxxxxxx (Dieter Bender)
> >subject: Re: JDBC Connection to V4R1
> >
> >Anwar,
> >
> >please give us more information: what error do you get at wich step of
> > your program.
> >
> >just a guess: maybe the database serves on the as400 are not started, or a
> >configuration entry for the database is missing.
> >
> >Dieter
> >
> >On Wednesday 09 July 2003 06:31, you wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I want to make a JDBC connection from a unix m/c to an AS/400 V4R1.
> > > I'll be grateful if someone can tell me the pre requisites for that. I
> > > am trying with jt400 and all the PTF's installed in AS/400. But still i
> > > am not able to make the connection.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Anwar
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > This is the Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400
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> >
> >--
> >mfG
> >
> >Dieter Bender
> >
> >
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> >------------------------------
> >
> >message: 9
> >date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:21:46 +0200
> >from: Dieter.Bender@xxxxxxxxxxx (Dieter Bender)
> >subject: Re: AS/400 JDBC Insert performance
> >
> >Allen,
> >
> >the easiest way to speed up such bulk inserts is to do it multithreaded
> > with multiple connections. this way the database workload is splitted to
> > multiple jobs, one for each connection.
> >8 hours for 180.000 rows = 166 Milliseconds per simple transaction is very
> >slow. I would have a look to the database monitor, what the job is doing
> > all the time. The summary by operations shows up the average for each sql
> > operation. normally an insert should be in the range of  < 2 milliseconds
> > .
> >
> >Is the table loaded from zero records?
> >does the job start fast and is getting slower?
> >
> >Dieter
> >
> >On Wednesday 09 July 2003 04:59, you wrote:
> > > I need to insert 180,000 rows into an AS/400 table
> > > within a 4 hour period.  Currently the best I can do
> > > will come in at 8 hours.  I am pretty sure that I
> > > should be able to at least double this speed.
> > >
> > > I am using the JT/Open toolkit JDBC driver.  I'm using
> > > Prepared Statements and I'm commiting after each batch
> > > of 250 rows.  The odd thing is that batching up the
> > > commits at 250 rows doesn't appear to be any faster
> > > than single row commits.
> > >
> > > Is there anything I need to do on the AS/400 to
> > > improve performance?  Will changing the isolation
> > > level of my JDBC connection make any difference?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Allen.
> > >
> > > =====
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
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> >--
> >mfG
> >
> >Dieter Bender
> >
> >
> >DV-Beratung Dieter Bender
> >Wetzlarerstr. 25
> >35435 Wettenberg
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> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >message: 10
> >date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:22:31 +0530
> >from: "Mahmood, Anwar (Cognizant)" <MANWAR@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >subject: RE: JDBC Connection to V4R1
> >
> >Hi,
> >Thanx for replying.
> >I am just trying to make a connection. One simple class. I load the driver
> >and use ConnectionManager to get a connection. There it self it fails. I
> >have the host servers have been started.
> >Can u plz give some more detail abt the Database configuration entry u
> >mentioned in ur reply??
> >
> >Regards,
> >Anwar
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
>
> From: Dieter Bender [mailto:Dieter.Bender@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:55 PM
> >To: Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400
> >Subject: Re: JDBC Connection to V4R1
> >
> >
> >Anwar,
> >
> >please give us more information: what error do you get at wich step of
> > your program.
> >
> >just a guess: maybe the database serves on the as400 are not started, or a
> >configuration entry for the database is missing.
> >
> >Dieter
> >
> >On Wednesday 09 July 2003 06:31, you wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I want to make a JDBC connection from a unix m/c to an AS/400 V4R1.
> > > I'll be grateful if someone can tell me the pre requisites for that. I
> > > am trying with jt400 and all the PTF's installed in AS/400. But still i
> > > am not able to make the connection.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Anwar
> > > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >Dieter Bender
> >
> >
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