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RE: odd and obscure crashes in Designer (the only kind :-)


Ignore my previous post regarding more crashes after SP2. I was reminded
that the day I installed SP2 I also installed TrendMicro Office Scan. When
I disable the real time scan, viola, no crashes. This brings up a question.
Whose responsibility is it to fix  issues regarding non-compatible
software? I guess it would be the crashing program's vendor. It must be
Friday.




Mark


Mark Walter
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
Hanover Wire Cloth a div of CCX, Inc.
mwalter@hanoverwire.com
http://www.hanoverwire.com
717.637.3795 Ext.3040



                    Larry Paque
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                    08/24/01 10:39 AM
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SP2 gets a thumbs up vote from me - it has given me fewer designer crashes.
Win98SE, V4R5M1.
The ones I still get continue to be of the odd, obscure and non-recreatable
variety.

Is some future version of Code400 going to play nice with Norton Antivirus?
That's my most common crash - forgetting to turn it off before starting any
part of Code.  That one is not odd, obscure or non-recreatable ;)



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I have noticed more designer crashes SINCE I've put on SP2.


Thanks,

Mark


Mark Walter
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
Hanover Wire Cloth a div of CCX, Inc.
mwalter@hanoverwire.com
http://www.hanoverwire.com
717.637.3795 Ext.3040



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                    08/23/01 04:58 PM
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Hi Phil,

I fully expect there to be an SP3 for V4R5M1, however like all things in
this business I would not bet the house on it quite yet.  There are a
number of "little but significant" fixes for Designer in SP2 that might
avoid the odd crash or two.

Yes, it seems that a slow connection or slow AS/400 (heavily loaded?) can
lead to problems retrieving reference info which can, in turn, lead to
Designer doing bad things.  I am actively working on this to both a)
prevent the crash and b) recover from the error and carry on.

Mike


Mike Hockings, P.Eng.
WebSphere Development Tools for AS/400  -  CODE/Designer & WebFacing !
IBM Canada Ltd. Laboratory
hockings@ca.ibm.com
voice 416 448 3199, fax 416 448 4414

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Mike,

(I changed the subject to "odd and obscure crashes in Designer". Classic!)

There will be an SP3 for V4R5 as well?  That's great because I don't want
to
upgrade to V5R1 until the as/400 is at V5R1 because of the verifier not
able
to select a release level.

Since you think the problems may be related to a slow connection, I am
connecting to a 620 and two 170's over the internet.  All three are at
V4R5.
I have a cable modem and one end has I think a 348KB connection, another
has
also has a cable modem, and I don't know about the 3rd.  With the 620 I
get
faster response times over the internet than in the building (fewer people
sharing the pipe I suspect.)

Phil

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> Hi Tony,
>
> If you can outline a sequence of events that causes a crash I will most
> certainly investigate it!
>
> In SP3 (451 and 510) there are fixes for some odd and obscure crashes in
> Designer.  I am still investigating some timeout and possible crash
> problem with field references.  This is more of a problem with slow
AS/400
> response times where extracting the reference info takes too long or
fails
> for some reason.
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Hockings, P.Eng.
> WebSphere Development Tools for AS/400  -  CODE/Designer & WebFacing !
> IBM Canada Ltd. Laboratory
> hockings@ca.ibm.com
> voice 416 448 3199, fax 416 448 4414
>
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> version for DDS
>
>
> Mike !!!!!!!!
>
> Hey, me too!  I like Code for display and printer files, but it does
crash
> a
> lot and it's really aggravating to lose a lot of work.
> I'm running an AMD550, Win2K pro, with 512m ram, Code V4R5m1 and if you
> stay
> in it long enough, it WILL crash.
>
> If I get the time (and nerve), I'm about due for a reload of Windows. As
> soon as I buy another drive to do it on, and determine that I can find
all
> the install media for all the stuff I've got on this PC, I will.  I just
> want to retain the ability to just plug in my old drives and be back
where
> I
> was, at least.
> After this, first thing I'm going to install is WDT.  Maybe this will
make
> it more stable.
>
> AS/Resources, Inc.
> William A.(Tony) Corbett
> IBM Certified Specialist - AS/400 Developer
> http://www.asresources.com
> corbett@asresources.com
> 404-784-4737
>
>
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