Re: Security (was Inventory history)

Lisa.Abney@sensient-tech.com writes:

> Do you really give all your users command line access?  What happens in
>  BPCS security, if users call things from the command line?  Aside from
>  that, doesn't opening up your command line to users make you a little
>  nervous?  AS400 security is definitely not my area, but doesn't this give
>  them access to an awful lot of VERY powerful commands

A lot of people have taken me to task for this kind of topic.

The time I was most nervous was duinng pilot conversion to our current 
version & the project team was exploring AS/400 menus & I KNEW that anything 
that got changed impacted ALL the stuff on AS/400 not just the pilot, and I 
also knew that there was more stuff that I did not know than I did know, and 
our coinsultants had an attitude that if there was any problem with security, 
instead of documenting what the problem was so that we could fix it, just 
turn off security so they could do their thing without impediment.  We 
finally had to have a confrontation at a management level ... I recognize 
that these consultants are very expensive & that we do not want to add to 
that cost by something blocking their access, but we need to have a pilot 
test that includes security, to make sure this is going to work live with 
security the way we think it should be setup.

Most BPCS programs bomb if you try to run them from the command line.
I have tested this concept to find out ... I know what causes the bombs & 
which types of programs do not bomb.

Our company is comfortable with a curious mix of almost no security over 
trusted employees & limited access for people who have not yet had relevant 
training in how to use some very powerful tools.  Security makes it practical 
to have different rules for different people & I have had lots of arguements 
with co-workers over some security setups, like password rules for example.  
Ultimately my department's job is to SERVE the desires of my customers & the 
customers are always right, even if I would make a different decision if I 
was in their shoes.  So I argue, giving reasons why this perhaps is not a 
good idea, then relent & do what they asked for, after I have done my duty to 
point out some risks.

The bottom line is that in security breaches, the PC area is a never ending 
battleground of discoveries of Microsoft Security Holes that child hackers 
are exploring, while in the 400 area even with occasional klutzes about the 
worst thing that ever happens is that person-A launches 2,000 shop orders, 
and person-B accidentally deletes them off the spool files (yes we have given 
all our users access to each other spool files), and our modifications 
environment is such that reprints are not currently available.

For every one instance of a real security problem on BPCS (someone reading 
accounting records & TALKING about the contents, which I think was the real 
sin, or a few years ago when we had a bitter strike & someone leaked payroll 
data on top executives to the union), we have scores of what turn out to be 
false alarms (a piece of hardware going flaky on its addressing makes it 
appear to the system error messages like we have a pirate station on our 
network).

There are people who are hyper about security.
Do not let anyone have a key to the building because they might steal from 
you.

Do not leave men & women in the building alone after hours because one might 
accuse the other of hanky panky & to protect your people you always need to 
have at least 2 men & 2 women together, as witnesses, if all you worried 
about is accusations of straight sexual harrassment, make it 3 of each for 
protection against accusations of gay stuff.

Then there are companies that trust their work force to behave in a 
responsible fashion & provide the tools to help us be productive.

We have locks on our gates to protect our assets from communities of people 
outside of our company, but inside the atmosphere is a bit more relaxed.

I guess it comes down to a corporate culture topic.

MacWheel99@aol.com (Alister Wm Macintyre) (Al Mac)

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