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  • Subject: RE: BPCS 6.02/6.04/6.1
  • From: "Micki Rogers/MiWheel" <Mrogers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 11:57:22 -0400


Given all that SSA is going through, we have made a decision to move to 6.1
ASAP just to make sure we have a good clean version of BPCS.  At least
there won't be the support issues if SSA negotiations fall flat.


                                                                                
                                    
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Best reason for option 2 is that V6.1 is proving to be a lot more stable
than v604 and obviously better than v6.002.

From what I can gather whilst V61 was in development it gained BMR fixes
from V6.004 resulting in a better released product.

Graham
> ----------
> From:         Handal, David[SMTP:david.handal@omgi.com]
> Sent:         03 May 2000 14:55
> To:           'BPCS-L@midrange.com'
> Subject:           BPCS 6.02/6.04/6.1
>
> We currently have two facilities on BPCS 6.02, three facilities on 6.04,
> and
> two facilities will go live in 2-3 months (currently piloting 6.04).
> Given
> the problems with 6.02, we are looking at two options:
>
> (1) upgrade the 6.02 facilities to 6.04, and keep everyone on 6.04 for a
> couple of years, then go to a newer version (if BPCS is still viable
> then).
> (2) upgrade everyone to 6.1 starting with the 6.02 facilities this year,
> and
> upgrade the rest to 6.1 next year.
>
> Our modifications to BPCS are mostly reports; few inquiry screens; and
> minor
> interfaces to three other systems...   We want to have everyone on the
> same
> version (for obvious reasons).   Option 1 is more appealing because
effort
> is significantly less...
>
> Can anyone please provide information as to why we should go through all
> the
> trouble now to go with option 2 ...
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Rob [SMTP:stagis@fansteelvrwesson.com]
> > Sent:       Wednesday, May 03, 2000 8:00 AM
> > To:         BPCS-L@midrange.com
> > Cc:         'Hydro, Bill Wagner'; billw71@hotmail.com
> > Subject:         RE: Events at SSA
> >
> > We're also on 4.05CD as well as running 6.1 at two other plants.
> > Personally, I don't use SSA tech support at all at the 4.05 plants.
> We're
> > content with the product - anything it's missing from my company's
point
> > of
> > view we simply code.  I've got no reverence for maintaining teh virgin
> > code
> > in BPCS.  We DO keep up the prescribed method of doing additions (user-
> > and
> > user-file libraries), and our installation is mostly 'stock' with the
> > exception of forms-changes.  Mostly what we've done has been additional
> > reporting and we're satisfied with the product.
> >
> > I've got my permanent key, the system is stable and known to the users
> and
> > the MIS staff (all 2 of us) and we won't be changing in the short-term
> > future.
> >
> > The shops on 6.1?  A slightly different story - this was a new
> > installation,
> > thankyouverymuch.  Due to problems and DP personnel abandoning ship
> during
> > what was seen as a 'hopeless' conversion, I was sent in as the cavalry
> > along
> > with an outside consultant and we went live on our Y2K-necessitated
> > conversion on Thanksgiving weekend, 1999, whether they were ready or
> not.
> > They've got a plain-vanilla package that we're currently coding
> additional
> > reports for, and they're on the phone to SSA techies constantly.  These
> > shops could have issues if there's problems with response, etc...and I
> > might
> > have problems if management deems it necessary for my shops to go to
6.1
> > in
> > order to be the same as the other shops.
> >
> > There's always consultants/SSA partners, and these guys won't be going
> out
> > of business anytime soon.  They ARE expensive (picture me dodging
> bullets
> > from consulting companies here) but when you've got the right one,
> they're
> > much more responsive than SSA as well as just as knowledgeable, without
> > having the 'reverence' for the product that SSA promotes...they're
> willing
> > to see what it'll do when you don't use it according to SSA's master
> plan.
> >
> > For us?  As a stable company, BPCS meets our needs.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-bpcs-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-bpcs-l@midrange.com]On
> > Behalf Of Bandit Motorsports Inc.
> > Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 10:22 PM
> > To: BPCS-L@midrange.com
> > Subject: Events at SSA
> >
> >
> > I've been ready the posts from this group for the past 6 months. It's a
> > great learning tool to read everyone's issues and replies.  Thanks!!
> >
> > We are on 4.05 CD.  With the recent melt down at SSA, I'm not sure, how
> > much life this product will have at my company. Managment's patience is
> > running very thin. Havn't seen much written on the subject here.  Will
> > people in the group please share their thoughts on the subject?
> >
> > Thanks.  George.
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