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Yes I know that. But since websockets are a new thing, why is it a surprise that the IBMi operating system does not yet support them "out of the box"? The people who wrote jWebsocket did not write it for the IBMi - they wrote it because there are many server operating systems that do not yet support websockets out of the box. So, as I alluded, IBM are far from alone in this regard. I fail to see why this discussion provides evidence that the iSeries may be perceived to be in decline. IIS7 does not support websockets either - you have to go for IIS8 or implement a third party solution like jWebsocket (or one of the other options around) id you are on a Windows platform.

Now if, in a year or two, we still have to implement third party solutions for websockets on the IBMi - then the "perceived to be in decline" argument may have some merit.

No, I don't like IE :)

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Maurice O'Prey
Sent: 11 July 2012 20:58
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Websockets on the IBMi

Kevin

I was referring to Server Operating Systems (I don't recall mentioning any specific browser nor browser manufacturer??)

Don't you like i.e.? :-)

Maurice


-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Turner
Sent: 11 July 2012 20:25
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Websockets on the IBMi

"The internet and the web are not new things" - no they are not, and they are possibly the same thing. However, relatively speaking, websockets are very new. They are an HTML 5 feature that has only relatively recently been introduced. That is why it is only recently that browsers (they have also been around for while) have only just started supporting them (or not yet where IE is concerned). So, the fact that the IBMi does not yet support them out of the box is no great surprise. It is far from being alone in that regard.....Microsoft will now doubt catch up with IE10.

Hope you stayed awake long enough to read this far :)


-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Maurice O'Prey
Sent: 11 July 2012 20:03
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Websockets on the IBMi

This discussion is possibly the most boring one I've ever seen on this list and frank evidence of why the iSeries might be perceived to be in decline.
If it doesn't support web sockets out of the box then whose fault is that?
(The Box (its Black), OS or IBM or Actual Business Need on that platform?)

No doubt I am behind the times..... And let's get real here, the internet and the web are not new things! So either catch up or get off the pot :-)

Maurice O'Prey



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