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Ah, I see what you mean now and that I do agree with. The Harmony battle is
a battle of it's own. I think the ASF has some hurt feelings over it, which
I understand.

I'm just ready for Java 7 to come out. I really want properties. I'm so
tired of the whole getter/setter methods. Plus the diamond operator. Can't
say I like the syntax, but it beats new HashMap<String, Integer>.

It will be interesting to see. I do think Oracle will do right by Java. It
sucks that the ASF is leaving, but we need progress IMO.

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James R. Perkins


On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:23, Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Sorry, I didn't mean it that way. I should have been more specific: this
limtitation prevents Harmony from running on an appliance and claiming to
be Java compatible.

It's really a tempest in a teapot, at least for now. As Thorbjørn noted,
SE 6 is perfectly adequate for anything coming down the pike. If Oracle
does indeed force a fork between "official" SE 7 and the current open
source JVM, it will be interesting to see how the open source community
rects - will new libraries use only SE 6 capabilities? Oracle is in
danger of turning Java into PHP - the PHP4 vs PHP5 battle is still not
pretty.

Joe


I don't agree with Joe that Oracle doesn't want Java running on embedded
devices. Yes Oracles bread and butter is on the server side, but the
server
side usually talks to some kind of device on the user end.

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