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Most open source languages are also available cross platform. Java, PHP, Ruby, Perl, etc. My recommendation is to get a free distro of VM Ware Server, install a Linux or Windows image on your PC and get busy. Or maybe you have an old PC. If not, head to your local electronics recycling bin and make a withdrawal! The languages are the same and 90% of what you need to learn is the language. Most of us know DB2 and general databases. Learning MySQL would not hurt any of us! When you are ready for the IBM i particulars, go to iDevCloud and finish it all off.

I learned PHP on the street, like a lot of PHP developers. Started on Linux, Windows and THEN IBM i. I didn't whine because I did not have IBM i LPAR or a dedicated system. You don't need much to learn this stuff. Need any coaching? Just give me a shout!

Regards,

Mike

mike.p@xxxxxxxx Cell: (408)679-1011 Office: (630)928-1476

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-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schmidt, Mihael
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 8:26 AM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] IBM i in the cloud (was social media)

If you are doing open source development and also have a full time job, most of the time you don't have 2 or 4 weeks in a row to work on your open source dev. It is more like here an hour and there an hour and then perhaps a week or so with no time for os dev at all. Time to work on os dev can not be planned.

Mihael

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Aaron Bartell
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 2:37 PM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] IBM i in the cloud (was social media)

The VLP is allowed to do open source, but I get your point. Also, if you
have the right "coupon code" you can get it for 4 weeks at a time vs. 2
weeks. Back when I was using it more heavily that really came in handy.

Nathan's idea of a coop for a machine is actually a really good one to get
the price/month down - provided somebody is willing to host it on an
internet connection that has a decent pipe. If you split an entry level 520
(or 720 now, I believe) 5 ways, you would come to about $50/party (including
paying for the internet).

That situation can work, and is a good starting point, but after having done
it for 4yrs with one sitting in my basement, I would be willing to pay an
extra $20/month just to have somebody keep it up to date with PTFs and such.
That's why I am holding my breath for iDevCloud.com as I know Jim and Larry
are continually working with IBM to come up with further offerings.

Aaron Bartell
www.MowYourLawn.com/blog
www.OpenRPGUI.com
www.SoftwareSavesLives.com



On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Schmidt, Mihael <Mihael.Schmidt@xxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

Where does the open source developer fit into this?

IBM i Academic Initiative - nope
IBM Virtual Loaner Program - nope
IBM ISV Development Lease Program - nope
iDevCloud.com - nope (I am not _paying_ 50 bucks for helping the community
with free software)

No wonder we don't have an open source RPG community. It never had any
chance to start/grow at all.

Regards

Mihael



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