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Joe,

"people who still have that spark - they just enjoy writing code. Making something out of nothing."

For me that is IT exactly and my wife, bless her heart and admire her patience, really doesn't get it. I just tell her that Van Gogh or Matisse probably had wives that wondered how they could just sit and paint all day and into the night, basically putting their imaginations onto canvass. Me? I code to make real what I can only imagine. Too much fun to be called "a job". The side benefit is the occasional "atta boy" from another "artist" who sees what you were after and can critique and improve it (thus, the advantage of open sourcing it).

Back to coding.....

Pete


Joe Pluta wrote:
Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote:
Evan Harris skrev:
Heh, I originally resisted commenting (but only just). My immediate thought
was: "Plugh".

Regards
Evan Harris


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Sent: Saturday, 9 January 2010 5:13 p.m.
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Glassfish Implemenation

Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote:
Sigh. Why _MUST_ application servers require navigating a maze of twisty commands, all alike just to do simple stuff?
ARGH! An ADVENT reference! Sudden flashbacks to 4AM disassembling of the files to find the phrase "Congratulations! You have vanquished a dragon with your bare hands! Unbelievable, isn't it?"

Hasn't the fun gone a bit out of computing? When was the last time you saw that prase on a green screen? :(
Oh, entirely. In fact, some of the comments in the discussion on Open Source, particularly the ones about getting jazzed up by writing open source code, made me a bit nostalgic for my early days of programming. Back then, getting two computer in the same room to talk to one another was a trick - and getting them to do it over the phone was something of a miracle! I loved those early days when it was a challenge just to get the dot-matrix print to print a decent circle (and then have the same code on another printer print a weird wobbly oval).

Yes, much of the fun is gone. I think the folks who initiate many of the open source projects are people who still have that spark - they just enjoy writing code. Making something out of nothing. Creating a working object out of nothing more than their minds. I've probably lost some of that, although I occasionally still get a little flash of it. In fact, I'm toying with the idea of starting a new project that is absolutely nothing but a lark.

AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Easy now.
I believe an adventure-like interface was written for the Linux Kernel Configuration system (by Eric Raymond) but I cannot locate it. Otherwise you could run that to get relief without risking running in to hard-to-kill dragons and other surprises (not being a native English speaker it literaly took me years to understand the "pining for the fjords" comment).

There was a library called ADVENT for the AS/400. I have to see if I can find it...

Joe

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