They go to RPG World, I know that for a fact. <g>

-Bob Cozzi

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mike Skvarenina
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:53 PM
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: RE: [WEB400] RE: CGIDEV2

Do people actually still go to Common?

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Don
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 8:52 PM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: RE: [WEB400] RE: CGIDEV2

Frankly, it sounds like a good idea to me...Soundoff at COMMON sounds good 
starting place....or perhaps the "town hall" meeting...we could do with a 
little less preaching to the choir and a little more listening to the 

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Nathan Andelin wrote:

> Walden,
> Giovanni recently clarified on yahoo groups that the
> open source license he wrote and published at
> applied to other software provided on the site, but
> not to CGIDEV2, which I'm sure was was a surprise to a
> lot of people.
> He promoted CGIDEV2 as "open source", but now
> acknowledges that it wasn't.  Just before his
> retirement from IBM, Giovanni requested that IBM
> release the product as open source, but his request
> was refused.  He indicated that he was reprimanded by
> an IBM attorney, for allowing Mel to fix and enhance
> the product after leaving IBM, and for distributing
> Mel's changes.
> Giovanni is now calling for a popular uprising to
> pressure IBM into releasing its copyright.  Who knows
> what the folks at IBM CTC may be thinking, other than
> feeling reluctant to relinquish their rights.
> Nathan M. Andelin
> --- "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>> I did then ask the owner of CGIDEV2, the IBM CTC
>> Rochester,
>>> to let me redistribute CGIDEV2 from my site, in
>> order to
>>> provide future maintenance and enhancements.
>> OK, I'm confused. First, I am NOT a lawyer, but
>> having said that, if you
>> look at the license on the ibm site for CGIDEV2 it's
>> really clear that
>> anyone can modify the code and redistribute both the
>> original and the
>> modified versions. So, what does Giovanni need
>> permission for, and
>> what's IBM withholding. Seems to me Giovanni could
>> just put the code on
>> his site and he'd be doing nothing wrong.
>> -Walden
>> ------------
>> Walden H Leverich III
>> Tech Software
>> (516) 627-3800 x11
>> WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
>> (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
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