Sorry the automatically do find all (alt+a) was a mistake that I corrected
in the next e-mail, what I meant to say was automatically select "Restrict
search to selection".
The two RFEs that you describe below will be perfect.
Thanks,
____________________________________________________________________________
Maha Masri Project Manager
Rational Developer for i - Rational Developer for AIX and Linux - Rational
Developer for Power
From: "Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc."
<mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/23/2015 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] The problem with Finding what is selected
Sent by: "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Ok, so I did a bit more research on the Eclipse find-replace dialog, and
here is how it works. If you select 1 line of code or less, that selection
is moved to the find term, and the search scope is defaulted to the entire
document. But if you select more than a single line of code and press
ctrl-f, the first line goes to the find term, and the search scope is
defaulted to find within the selected text. Eclipse has no "Find All"
functionality, but I would expect that "Find All" would respect the
selection if it contains more than a single line of code and the search
scope is set to find within selected text. I don't think I would want to
automatically do a "Find All" because I don't all ways want to do that. If
the find-replace operated this way, I would not have a reason to disable
the ctrl-f functionality. I will enter a couple RFE's, one to only pick up
the first line selected and default the appropriate scope, and the other to
have ctrl-f work the same way for both block
and stream selection..
Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: "Maha Masri" <masri@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/22/2015 09:07AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] The problem with Finding what is selected
Thanks for checking. I agree that it would be nice to work more like the
base eclipse search and allow for stream selection on the selected lines
(which is automatically enabled when lines are multiple selected) and only
picks up the contents of the first line as the search string.
It would be great if you could open up two RFEs:
1) one for only picking up the first line for when multiple lines are
selected - and even automatically doing the alt-a for you
2) and another for enabling ctrl-f for stream selection.
Thanks,
____________________________________________________________________________
Maha Masri
Rational Developer for i - Rational Developer for AIX and Linux - Rational
Developer for Power
From: "Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc."
<mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/15/2015 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] The problem with Finding what is selected
Sent by: "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
I see what you are saying. Block selection does indeed resolve that issue.
That works as expected. I wish that stream selection worked within ctrl-f,
alt-a the same way as I usually use the stream selection mode, but this is
a sufficient workaround for now. And yes, it would be nice to have a way to
disable ctrl-f picking up the currently selected text as the search string.
Maybe if the string contains a regular expression, or if the selection
contains multiple lines, you could just leave the current select string. I
don't think I have ever wanted to search for more than one line of text,
and if I did, I would be ok with cut and paste into the search string. I
was ok with that before, so it could even be a default setting to disable
the ctrl-f functionality. The base eclipse search and replace function has
been pretty much without surprises for me, so much that I don't even notice
exactly how it works. Maybe I will look at that and see what it does.
Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: "Maha Masri" <masri@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/14/2015 04:07PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] The problem with Finding what is selected
Yes that is true for your first issue that both block and stream will
populate the find field, and as you said you can work around that. But you
may still want a setting to disable it or do something else?
However for what I wrote below, I am wondering if your second issue is
resolved when using block selection?
Thanks,
____________________________________________________________________________
Maha Masri
From: "Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc."
<mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/14/2015 03:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] The problem with Finding what is selected
Sent by: "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Both block selection and stream selection are used to populate the find
field for ctrl-f.
Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: "Maha Masri" <masri@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/11/2015 11:15AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] The problem with Finding what is selected
One question, when running through the steps below, have you tried using
Block selection instead of Stream selection? That is, have you tried to
use Select line (Alt+L), character (Alt+B) or rectangle (Alt+R) instead of
using your mouse or the shift and arrow keys to select the source? Once
Block selected, I think that the steps below will work in that typing the
search term and pressing alt-a should NOT clear the selection and the
ctrl-f search term should be saved in the history.
1. select a block of source
2. do ctrl-f (make sure "Restrict search to selection is selected")
3. Type search term
4. alt-a
5. inspect selected lines
6. type replace string
7. alt-e to replace all within the selection
You may still want it to work with stream selection as well, in which case
an RFE or PMR would be needed if this worked before (although I went back
several versions and did not see it working).
Thanks,
____________________________________________________________________________
Maha Masri Project Manager
Rational Developer for i - Rational Developer for AIX and Linux - Rational
Developer for Power
From: "Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc."
<mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/08/2015 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] The problem with Finding what is selected
Sent by: "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Yes, I know about search history, and it is the main reason I haven't said
anything. It is the "Restrict search to selection" piece that is the main
problem.
Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: -----
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From: Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/08/2015 10:57AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] The problem with Finding what is selected
Mark
In this context, have you tried arrow-up or arrow-down in the search
field? It keeps a history of things you've already searched for, maybe
that'd be useful.
Vern
On 9/8/2015 9:32 AM, Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc. wrote:
Several months ago there was an uproar concerning RDi's behavior when
ctrl-f was pressed. The problem was that folks wanted the selected text to
be inserted as the search term. So now the selected text is used as the
search term when ctrl-f is pressed. Unfortunately, we now have two less
than optimal consequences of this. First, if a large block is selected, the
ctrl-f search term is large, and I have to replace it with what I really
want to search for. Not always a big deal, but if I want to search for
something within a selected block of text "Restrict search to selection",
the thing I want to search for is never the selection, but some smaller
portion of the selection. I can still work around that though. The second
issue is a bigger deal. If I want to do a search and replace within a
selection, and I want to see the lines my search term will select, I have
to:
1. select a block of source
2. do ctrl-f
3. clear the search term as it contains the selected block
4. type the real search term (this can be combined with #3)
5. alt-a to filter on my search terms.
6. Inspect selected lines to ensure there is no unexpected changes that
will occur with my replace
If everything is OK, I have to do steps 1-4 again as alt-a has cleared my
selection, and ctrl-f will loose my last search term because I am searching
within a selection.
Then I can type my replace string, and select "Replace all".
This all used to be much simpler.
1. select a block of source
2. do ctrl-f (make sure "Restrict search to selection is selected")
3. Type search term
4. alt-a
5. inspect selected lines
6. type replace string
7. alt-e to replace all within the selection
I don't remember having to reselect after alt-a, and I certainly did not
have to retype my search terms (I would not appreciate this much at all if
I was using regular expressions).
I am not advocating removing the behavior where the current selection is
used as the search term except when "Restrict search to selection" is
active, and possibly when the selection is too large, maybe more than a
single line. I also would prefer that alt-a did not clear the initial
selection when "Restrict search to selection" is active. May need to save
that initial selection in the background in some way, but having to
backtrack through my use case and force retyping search terms negates any
search term validation I do using alt-a.
Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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