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Re: RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Edmund,

Sadly, it seems that the yellow Squiggly line for the "Misplaced construct(S)" on code goes crazy on RDI 9.5.

It was after I ran the formatter. It does not go "crazy" on RDi 9.1.1.1, but seems to report a whole bunch of false "Misplaced constructs" on RDi 9.5. After I ran the formatter. Can't seem to PIN IT DOWN... <disappointment>

IBM Support already has my source. So I am HOPING that support will see the EXACT same thing I see...

And I saw some reports of some people turning off the outliner, I thought...

So, to clarify; I open the "FORMATTED" source in RDI 9.5. Open it in RDI 9.5, and I have Yellow Squiggly lines EVERYWHERE, basically. (approximately 80-90 of this code)

Open RDi 9.1.1.1, and I do NOT get those Yellow Squiggly lines all over the place. It still does not compile. <LOL> It did not break the compiler. <Hysterical laughter>

So, the shiniest is wearing off. A fast fix would be great. Let me know if I do any more to help.

Go RDI 9.5! Still happy to be an earlier adopter, and take a few errors.

As long as it doesn't take long to get them fixed... <biting into snicker's bar> :D


-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 10:09 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Edmund,

Thanks for your patience with me. I appreciate all you and your team's work on RDi 9.5. I am so glad is now using Luna, eclipse 4.4.2. I can customize my colors again! :)

I forgot about the Eclipse trick to duplicate window, which also work on the embedded emulator:
Window>Editor>Clone. I love that trick. I forgot about it! <Big Smile>

I always enjoy working with the IBM support for RDI. My only issue is on those rare issues that I cannot duplicate. I run into the same problem, I cannot fix a program bug, until I duplicate it. I sent them my source to hopefully duplicate the error.

Sometimes as developer, running around putting out fires, it is a nice to hear a nice friendly reminder to please report it through proper channels to get resolve. Believe it or, I appreciate that! Thanks Edmund. RDi 9.5 helps our developers and our little "Fire-Fights". A.k.a. the latest "Top Priority" to Fix Yesterday.
<big grin> Every developer runs into that... :)


PS. I will be sure to ALWAYS have spare snickers bar, and calm down. <LOL>

-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edmund Reinhardt
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 7:08 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!


Ken,
It was nice meeting you. I appreciate your passion for the product.
Don't close that PMR, we still need to fix it so that it never shifts comments that far left in column-limited free form. I am glad that work around solved things for you.

Edmund




From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/23/2015 07:56 AM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but
pretty good!
Sent by: "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Wow! Ran into Edmund, and he knew about my formatting problem...

On RDi 9.5

I change the indent from 1 -100, instead of *MAX. And then the indenter works fine, no issues! Cool! I thought I had to be missing something.

I will notify IBM support on my PMR, later that I guess this can be closed.

Thanks!

PS. So many great features update in RDi 9.5, now I am drooling for the next update. Love this RDI IDE! It makes programming fun, fast, efficient, and more important, enjoyable!



-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 3:51 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Hi,

I wanted to mention that the "FORMATTER" Ctrl+Shift+F did NOT actually get RDi 9.5 to blow up...

But, AFTER running the "Formatter", which includes tons of Right-hand comment past column 80. It blew up AFTER I did the Ctrl+Shift+V, "VERIFY".
That is when RDI 9.5 crashed/blew-up.

I sent screen prints to IBM support for the PMR 35067,442 Formatter cause RDI to crash. It was AFTER I did the Verify, after the formatter. Just to clarify.

-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 10:22 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Edmund,

I followed procedure, and open a PMR#35067,442 for the formatter crashing RDI on one my huge programs with right hand comments, that extend past column 80. Which I assume is the cause of the blow up.

I will work with IBM support, and send them code, that I was able to crash RDI.

Thanks for reminding me to report, so it can be resolved!

-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 8:45 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Edmund,

Sure, I will do that later privately...

Just don't critic the code... <LOL>

-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:13 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!


Ken,
On a separate note I was not able to reproduce the crash when doing the verify. Could you send me the offending source member?
Thanks




From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/18/2015 07:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect,
but
pretty good!
Sent by: "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



I decide to test the new built in RPGLE "formatter", a.k.a. Ctrl+Shift+F, and it failed BIG time on one my biggest programs with over 6,400 lines.

It does not like right-hand comments, which I happen to use a ton of those!
It gave my program approximately 1,000 plus errors...

Let me elaborate in simple terms....

Starting in column-8, I put "//" followed by all "*" through the end of punch card to column 100.

When using the formatter, it Shift that code LEFT to approximately column-6. <LOL>

Then I tried to do verify, just to see how many errors it found. Then surprise! RDI 9.5 BARFED! <LOL> Java was started but returned exit code=8096.

I guess the Formatter was only designed to handle the old fashion punch-card with 80-columns, not to 100 columns, like most of us have for our QRPGLESRC. Defined as 112, 6-seq, 6-date, 100-source.
<Maniacal Laughter> :)

No worries for me, I will continue to use the Linoma RPG Tool Box plug-in, which works... <grin>

So, for those coders, who do NOT go past the 80-columns, maybe the formatter will work find for you... <snicker snicker>

Oh well, over all, I am pleasantly please with this release.

PS. I am eating a snickers bar right now, no worries! <Big Smile>

-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 6:12 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

Cool, I found the formatting options...
Window>Preference>Remote Systems>Remote Systems LPEX>IBM I Parsers>ILE
RPG>Formatter....

You can change the number of spaces to indent. I knew it was thee some where. I have Developer friends who do not have a 3rd party inventor like Linoma. So, this will be good to share!


-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [WDSCI-L] RDi 9.5 indenter not too bad. Not perfect, but pretty good!

RDi 9.5 built in indenter, Ctrl+Shift+F, is not too bad. It is not perfect, and pretty good for the first pass...

It gets just a smidge confused when trying to indent code with right hand comments. No biggie, but different.

Sadly, because it updates the indent, it also updates all the source dates too...

I like the Linoma RPG Tool box/plug in, it has the option *NOT* to update the source dates, when just updating the code indentation. And since it has been doing code indentation a lot longer, it is more refined.

But, my test run of the built indenter is a lot better than no indenter!
This will be an excellent start for those without a 3rd party plug-in.

Thanks IBM!

-Ken Killian-
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