Re: Rational Developer for i V9.0 and Rational Developer for AIX and Linux V9.0 now available! -- WDSCI-L

Vern,

Yes, there is a difference with the trial downloads versus what you see in
ESS but it is only with the packaging mechanism. With the trial downloads,
there are 4 parts to download. In ESS, there are 2.
They contain the same content.

ESS contains the DVD images (also available in Passport if you choose to
get physical media). The DVD images can be 4GB. For trial downloads, the
maximum size is around 2GB. So, that is why the trial downloads have
double the number of parts. In past releases, we were less than 2GB so the
ESS and trial download were the same.

In the RDi install, there are installable features under 'Modernization
Tools, Java Edition' for the JEE/WAS tools. If you purchased the license
for this, they can be installed regardless of which image you are using
(web install, trial download, ESS).

Thanks,
Eric

Eric
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Hi Eric

Now I'm completely confused. There is no indication of what each of the
downloads contain.

We purchased, seats of 8.5 through our BP using the ADTS trade-up. I
forget - RDG or RDW. Then we got the upgrade to 9.0.

On ESS were 4 items to download - 2 were RDi - 2 were Data Studio.

So how does that relate to the trials downloads?

Besides, I've not taken time to look at the 2nd of our ESS downloads -
as I recall, the trial y'all gave us access to was only one file.

I just looked at your blog, and it only says these are available - now
for us, only the main option is what we have - not the additional
JEE/WAS tooling.

Thanks
Vern

On 7/19/2013 4:53 AM, Eric Simpson wrote:

James,

There was significant restructuring of the product between 8.5 and 9.0.

In 8.5, we had 1 product with 4 licensed features. One of those features
was the IBM i tooling. In addition, we also had various bundles with

other

products to add other capabilities. There was a bundle which provided

EGL

support and another bundle which added advanced JEE/WAS tools.

In 9.0, the product was split into two products. One for IBM i. One for
AIX and Linux. For both of those, we also added in the JEE/WAS tools.

For

RDi, this is an additional licensed feature but it is now part of RDi
itself instead of a 'bundle' with other products. So, the size increase

due to the additional tools that are part of RDi. For EGL support, it is
still a 'bundle' with RBD.

Whether you need all 4 four depends on what you select to install. If

you

only select the RPG and COBOL Tools of RDi in English, you will not need
them all (but I think the first two at minimum).

Thanks,
Eric

Eric
Simpson

Rational
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Rational
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and Linux
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Rational
Developer
for Power

IBM
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Group -
Canada
Lab

Phone: 905-413-3226 (T/L: 313-3226)

e-mail: esimpson@xxxxxxxxxx

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Hi Eric,
great that the trial download for i is now available but there

are

4 very large files on the download page, are they all required? The RDP
8.5 download was only one file at 1.5GB.

IBM Rational Developer for i V9.0 Core Product Install 1 Evaluation
Multiplatform Multilingual
RDI_V9.0_CP_INSTALL_1_EVALUATION.zip (1556 MB)

IBM Rational Developer for i V9.0 Core Product Install 2 Evaluation
Multiplatform Multilingual
RDI_V9.0_CP_INSTALL_2_EVALUATION.zip (1624 MB)

IBM Rational Developer for i V9.0 Core Product Install 3 Evaluation
Multiplatform Multilingual
RDI_V9.0_CP_INSTALL_3_EVALUATION.zip (1556 MB)

IBM Rational Developer for i V9.0 Core Product Install 4 Evaluation
Multiplatform Multilingual
RDI_V9.0_CP_INSTALL_4_EVALUATION.zip (1440 MB)

regards

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From: Eric Simpson <esimpson@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio

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for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 18/07/2013 19:30
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Rational Developer for i V9.0 and Rational
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The developerWorks trial pages for the 9.0 products are now live and let
you do the downloads of the 9.0 trial zips.

developerWorks trial download page for RDi 9.0 is now available at:
https://ibm.com/developerworks/downloads/r/rdi/

developerWorks trial download page for RD AIX and Linux 9.0 is now
available at: https://ibm.com/developerworks/downloads/r/rdal/

I updated the blog post with this information:

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/49773f8f-a20d-4816-86f2-44a2d862dbc1/entry/rational_developer_for_i_v9_0_and_rational_developer_for_aix_and_linux_v9_0_are_now_available?lang=en

Thanks,
Eric

Eric
Simpson

Rational
Developer
for i -
Rational
Developer
for AIX
and Linux
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Rational
Developer
for Power

IBM
Software
Group -
Canada
Lab

Phone: 905-413-3226 (T/L: 313-3226)

e-mail: esimpson@xxxxxxxxxx

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I have posted some updated information on the blog post:

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/49773f8f-a20d-4816-86f2-44a2d862dbc1/entry/rational_developer_for_i_v9_0_and_rational_developer_for_aix_and_linux_v9_0_are_now_available?lang=en

There are still changes pending for some of the product web pages but you
can do web installs of the RDi 9.0 trial.

Thanks,
Eric

Eric Simpson
Rational Developer for Power Systems Software - Rational Developer for i

Rational Developer for AIX and Linux
IBM Software Group - IBM Toronto Lab
Phone: 905-413-3226 (Internal: 313-3226)
Email: esimpson@xxxxxxxxxx

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Passport Advantage is updated with the new products now. I don't have
details for ESS but it should be orderable now. For both of those, it
would be download only. The physical media will not be available for a
bit
(I can't recall the date for that). The license key center should be

able

to provide the activation kits now.

I will check on Monday regarding the trial download. Rational released
many IDE products today (RAD, RBD, RDz, etc.) which is great for any
customers who use the products together but the volume of web site

updates

takes some time. In the case of RDi and RDAIXLinux, these are 'new'
products so they have a bit more setup involved.

Eric Simpson
Rational Developer for Power Systems Software - Rational Developer for i

Rational Developer for AIX and Linux
IBM Software Group - IBM Toronto Lab
Phone: 905-413-3226 (Internal: 313-3226)
Email: esimpson@xxxxxxxxxx

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If I recall, when RDP 8.0 came out, the trial version wasn't available

for

a week or something like that. Customers with Passport Advantage Online
are the ones that get access immediately. ESS customers or those who

will

download the trial and then apply their license have to wait longer.

I just spent close to a year pushing to get our ESS transferred to PPO.
Almost there, but not quickly enough - I'll have to wait for the trial
version. Can't wait, too. Fix list looks great.

-Kurt

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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
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Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 3:58 PM
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System i & iSeries
Cc: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Rational Developer for i V9.0 and Rational
Developer
for AIX and Linux V9.0 now available!

Hi Eric
So how would customers download the product, if not through the trial
page?
Is there some instructions we can give them for downloading, installing
and
applying the license?

Regards,

Edmund (E.H.) Reinhardt
COBOL IDE on AIX, DDS, WebFacing, System i Application Development,
Rational Developer for Power

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From: Eric
Simpson/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx,
Date: 14/06/2013 01:10 PM
Subject: [WDSCI-L] Rational
Developer for i V9.0 and
Rational
Developer
for AIX and Linux V9.0 now available!
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See the following for some of the details of the new releases:

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/49773f8f-a20d-4816-86f2-44a2d862dbc1/entry/rational_developer_for_i_v9_0_and_rational_developer_for_aix_and_linux_v9_0_are_now_available?lang=en

For RDi 9.0, the Fix List shows the large number of APARs and RFEs
resolved:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27038481

Web pages to download trials will be made available but are not live yet.
License activation kits from previous releases do not work with the 9.0
releases.

Thanks,
Eric

Eric Simpson
Rational Developer for Power Systems Software - Rational Developer for i

Rational Developer for AIX and Linux IBM Software Group - IBM Toronto Lab
Phone: 905-413-3226 (Internal: 313-3226)
Email: esimpson@xxxxxxxxxx
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