Perspective may have something to do with it. One can espouse the need for investment in tools, but when some of the programmers out there have "grown up" off of free to use development environments, it can be hard to justify.
Even today, if my company wouldn't put up money for RDI, I'd have a hard time justifying to myself to spend a grand to benefit my company. Yeah it benefits me (makes me enjoy my job more), but so would a really nice desk chair, and how many people out there buy their own desk chairs at work? There might be some, but it can't be many. Heck, it didn't even occur to me until now to buy my own 26" monitor to bring to work to replace the 19" wide I was given. (Once I sell my condo, I'll be moving and telecommuting, and I'm actually very excited to use my the home computer system I built which blows away my work computer.)
I guess what I'm saying is for the non-contracted employee, it is a much different mindset in terms of who buys what. At least from my perspective.
In terms of the topic at hand, I don't know if I could see myself using a watered down version of RDI.
-Kurt
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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vern Hamberg
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 4:28 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi Lite?
Jim
What about MS' Express offering? Visual Studio Express for VB, e.g., seems to allow creating working code, yet it is free for the downloading.
Am I missing something with that comparison?
Regards
Vern
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The system still needs to have the LPP for the compilers etc loaded, that is the system side of the rational tools. The user side is the client we are discussing.
Think about it though, you work for several days on the perfect program for a client, then go to compile it and no compiler. Most clients will have the client side, they just don't invest in the desktop client, which in my mind is at least short sighted.
I'm of the opinion that IBM provides a tool, and up front tells you your going to pay for it. How is that bad? Next question is does Microsoft give it's tooling away to contractors just because? Nope, gotta buy the tools there too. So why should IBM give them away even the "lite" version?
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects
On 6/24/13 2:55 PM, Booth Martin wrote:
If I own my own license can I connect to any & every machine where I
have an ID, regardless of their licenses or lack thereof?
On 6/24/2013 2:48 PM, Jon Paris wrote:
...
However, as a freelancer I can never understand why we think we should not pay for our own tools? When was the last time any of us hired a plumber or carpenter (or car mechanic for that matter) and had him turn up with no tools and expecting to use ours? I see no reason why the freelancer should not provide his own copy - and in most cases it is a fully deductible expense.
-- Booth Martin 802-461-5349 http://www.martinvt.com
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