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Just a clarification - in 8.5, the program verifier is still called by the
live Outline view but only when you press the Refresh button. Normally,
the live Outline updates the contents automatically (except for external
information).

Currently the information used by content assist is reliant on the program
verifier. So, when you press Refresh, the program verifier is also called
so that content assist information updates (in addition to refreshing
external information like external files for the Outline view).

There is a highly rated RFE for having content assist be also 'live' (and
thus stop calling program verifier).

Thanks,
Eric

Eric Simpson
Rational Developer for Power Systems Software
IBM Software Group - IBM Toronto Lab
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From: Edmund Reinhardt/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA

To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Cc: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx

Date: 10/18/2012 04:32 PM

Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] *ENTRY vs. " PI " in RDP 8.0.3 problems with OUTLINE view

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By the way, another advantage of the live outline support in RDp 8.5, is
that the program verifier is no longer required to get the info to display
in the outline. Since the program verifier is the actual front end of the
compiler it is written in C and has to be called as a native DLL. So when
it crashed, it has the ability to take down the whole IDE. As of 8.5 no
bug in the outline view will ever take down the IDE.

I tested your example on our current level of live outline support and it
is handled without a problem.

I recommend upgrading.

Regards,



Edmund (E.H.) Reinhardt
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Rational Developer for Power



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From: Brian May <bmay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 10/18/2012 01:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] *ENTRY vs. " PI " in RDP 8.0.3 problems
with
OUTLINE view
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Instead of venting on the mailing list, just report the issue as a bug to
IBM so the Rational team can fix it.

Brian May
IBM i Modernization Specialist
Profound Logic Software
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877-224-7768 Toll Free





-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:49 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for
System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] *ENTRY vs. " PI " in RDP 8.0.3 problems with OUTLINE
view

Eric,

I try that, does NOT WORK...

Unless I hard code my program name with ExtPgm('MPGM')

D Entry PR ExtPgm('MYPGM')
D 7 Const
D Entry PI
D Customer 4 Const

I usually code like this, but RDP 8.0.3 does not work with Outline view:
Since I use V7R1M0, I no longer code the optional "PR" prototypes, because
they are NOT NEEDED! <Joy Joy>

D PI
D Customer 4 Const

Program compiles and runs perfectly. Just the RDP outline view does not
work...
<Big Frown>

So, back to *ENTRY, and FREE-FORMAT for the rest...

Whoops, then the new %BIF %PARMNUM no LONGER works...
<big Frown>

I can't win!!! Unless I HARD-CODE the PROGRAM name in every program...

That is STUPID and redundant!!! (To hard-code the program name in the
procedure interface.) Yes, I understand it might be need if bind multiple
modules together. But, we use Service Programs. <Big Smile>


-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of DeLong, Eric
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:45 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for
System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] *ENTRY vs. " PI " in RDP 8.0.3 problems with OUTLINE
view

Try just using "ENTRY" in the name portion... You can name the program
internally however you want, and I've used this syntax before to appease
the search habits of other coders.

-Eric DeLong

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:05 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for
System i & iSeries (wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Subject: [WDSCI-L] *ENTRY vs. " PI " in RDP 8.0.3 problems with OUTLINE
view

Hi,

Going forward, I am using the procedure interface the "PI" for my *ENTRY
parameters.

But, I hate HARD-CODING the program name in the "PI"...

So, I leave it BLANK, and it compiles fine and executes as expected! Cool!

Now to back to RDP 8.0.3, it blows up when I try to create an OUTLINE view.
It just crashes and ends RDP. No message, No Error, just ENDS...
<Big Frown>

I even tried to verify first. But that fails, because it wants me to
HARD-CODE the Main procedure in the "PI" statement...

I guess I should go back to FIXED Format for *ENTRY parameter list...
<Disappointment>

PS. I understand when you have multiple modules, and you need to know the
main interface. But, we mostly use Service programs.

Ken Killian
Senior ILE RPG Developer/C# .Net Developer in Training.
SoftLanding/TurnOver Administrator
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