Great stuff! Thanks and very apprapro for what I've been doing lately and
good additions for skills.
As someone once told me "You're a gentleman and a schoolbus!" ;-)
Jim Lowary
System Analyst, Salton Inc.
(573) 447-5500
message: 3
date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:15:30 -0400
from: Buck <kc2hiz@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Extending WDSC / Eclipse
Aaron Bartell wrote:
I have only edited a wiki page a few times, but with the amount of users
here wouldn't we potentially run into collisions with the amount of
editing
being done? how are conflicting changes resolved where two people were
editing at the same time? Does the last person in win?
I know exactly none of the answers but I promise you that my feelings
won't be hurt if you edit the page I started. I strongly suspect that
tinkering with it will help figure it out. If you're really, really
jammed up, use the Discussion (talk) tab at the top of the page you want
to edit.
Please, anyone who wants to try but is afraid of causing damage, this is
the perfect page to use as a sandbox:
http://wiki.midrange.com/index.php/WDSC_enhancements
--buck
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message: 4
date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:02:31 +0000
from: vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx
subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Web page tutorial in wdsc
I'm just starting out to maintain the web site for the community band I'm
in. I'm learning a lot of stuff - it is a pretty basic site, derived from
an old one somewhere else, I guess. www.ihcb.org if interested - watch
this site as I learn a few things - especially watch for a dropdown-flyout
menu some day!!!
The site linked below seems pretty good - I recommend also
www.w3schools.com for lots of tutorials.
I am being encouraged by a colleague here - a too-smart young punk !!! -
to move to the modern way of doing web pages - separate style and content.
Even the link below uses the old technique of using tables to do style -
presentation. I've seen what that code is like - it can be a mess - the
newer methods that use DIVs and SPANs and cascading style sheets and XHTML
seem better - if you were to look at the code for our band site, you would
see <font size=2>some text everywhere there is text - the content gets
murky. Also, as is said, tables are for tabular data, not for organization
of a page.
So here is a link to something using CSS and DIVs, etc., that looks quite
complex -
http://www.webreference.com/authoring/style/sheets/layout/advanced/
Again, www.w3schools.com has good introductory stuff. And I just ran
through this site last night - very impressive -
http://www.subcide.com/tutorials/csslayout/
And another site - where the gospel of XHTML and CSS is preached -
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/practicalcss/ - is an article on NOT
using tables - the alistapart site has good stuff - one contributor - Erik
Meyer - is recommended in a developerworks review - linked to in WDSC
tutorials on CSS.
Oh - style sheets are loaded once, cached, so your web page runs faster
when you use them, instead of embedding that stuff everywhere in the HTML
code - easier to maintain, too. They say!
It seems that hardly any of the wysiwyg editors work in this new regime -
WDSC uses tables - certainly MS' InterDev does, and probably FrontPage and
DreamWeaver - my colleague encourages using a good editor like TextPad,
UltraEdit, or EditPlus and use a browser like FireFox to test your work,
then adjust. I love a couple addins to Firefox - FireBug is unbelievable
for debugging JavaScript and all - then there is HTML Validator, and IE
Tab, that gives you an Internet Explorer test inside of FireFox.
I'm just beginning - but I'm intrigued and moving forward, I hope.
HTH
Vern
midrange.com
