Re: Advanced vs. Standard (was: New Release?)

Are there any screen shots or other documentation available to see what the
Application Diagrammer looks like?  I'd be interested to see what it's
supposed to do and why we should pay extra to get it.

Obviously the decision to try and extort money for a green screen design
tool is just ludicrous.  Somebody at IBM has to realize that the "i" is a
different box from the "z", "x" and "p", and that each requires a different
sales and marketing strategy.  Certainly a normal person would understand
that you don't sell a Corolla the same way you sell a Corvette.

In fact, it's a very close analogy: things that come standard on a luxury
car are extras on an economy car, and it's time somebody at IBM learned the
difference.  You want us to pay extra for development tools?  Then you can't
charge $4000 for a gigabyte of RAM.

Joe

From: Jon Paris

It really stinks that Application Diagram and Screen Designer Technology
Preview are only in the Advanced Edition.

I agree 100% that Screen Designer _has_ to be part of the standard
package.
It can only slow down adoption at a point in time where the reduced
footprint will help the tools take off.  The new Designer is a direct
replacement for CODE Designer (and SDA of course) both of which we
currently
have.   If IBM fail to make it generally available it just sends folks
back
to SDA.

The Diagrammer I think is a different issue - particularly since it is the
first step in producing more comprehensive tools.  Would I like it to be
free of charge?  Yes - but if IBM charge a reasonable amount for it that
is
OK too.  But the word "reasonable" means a maximum of 3 digits per seat
and
the first digit should be around a 3 or a 4!  Sadly Software group still
seem to be able to persuade mainframe customers that $3,000 + a seat is a
reasonable price for tools such as this and that mentality pervades their
WDSC thinking.