My experience with restarting the installer after brute force termination has been good. It seems to respect you more. <g> I've seen numerous installs over the last couple of years over several versions that gave every appearance of working that didn't seem to be doing anything. I. e. Task Manager shows app working, but more than an hour passes with no tangible results. I've never seen a successful install take more than 45 minutes. Obviously that depends on your hardware. Every time I've shut down the install, rebooted, and tried again, it worked. I expect there'll be a time that it doesn't. I've, so far, escaped manual registry cleaning and some other unpleasant things. -----Original Message----- From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lim Hock-Chai Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 1:53 PM To: Websphere Development Studio Client for iSeries Subject: RE: [WDSCI-L] how long does it takes to install wdsc v5.1.2 Well, here is what I think went wrong. Yes, I have the wdsc up when I was trying to install this new version of wdsc. However, the installer did ask me and close it down before letting me continue. After waiting for 5 hours and the screen seems to be not doing anything, I realize that the installer did not shut down the Communication Daemon (not sure if that is the cause of the problem). I shut it down and rerun the installer and it seems to be moving pretty good now. thanks.