Re: Need some ammunition (Procedures vs. Sub-routines)

Well I have four children and four grandkids and all learnt to walk by sticking a leg pout to stop from toppling over.

As to the rest - comments in-line.

On 2013-12-29, at 9:37 AM, D*B <dieter.bender@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

<Jon>
Learning to walk is a process of controlled falling over. The destination is the learning - direction comes later.
</Jon>

... I have only one daughter, but 4 grandchildren (and have had a look to their friends...) all learned w a l k i n g none of them tunbled around and learned flying, or swimming - there seemed to exist a direction from the beginning.
Let me give some examples for blind alleys:
- Visual Age for Java

From which came Eclipse and a whole world of tools.

- Visual Age for RPG

It met a need at a specific point in time. It died not because it was wrong but because politics forced an OS/2 first/only approach.

- programming Lotus Notes

Lots of people love out and still do it.

- EGL

At last something we can (mostly) agree on.

- PHP for business applications (it's well suited for dynamic websites, but not for transactional applications...)

So Sugar is not a business app? Or the many others. Sorry - just completely disagree.

just learning as destination might fit for some aged freelancers (like me), working just for fun, but not for an organisation, having a team of programmers keeping a critical application alive.

D*B

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