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Hey, thanks for this FAQ Vern, it answers my previous question on this topic.

...
If a customer notifies IBM that they do not wish to renew FTL, what are, if any, the
ramifications?
The customer will lose the right to use the software at the end of the last day of the term
of their license. If the customer decides at a later time to acquire the same product again
under a Fixed Term License, the Initial FTL is required – they cannot take advantage of
the lower-priced Subsequent FTL offering.
...

Meaning that the $764 price for the floating initial FTL is just for the first payment, and a subsequent FTL should cost less. I don't see any pricing for the subsequent FTL though. Anyone know what that is going to be? I guess IBM doesn't have to specify it yet since no one will have to pay it for at least 12 months, but it would be good to know.

Mark Murphy
STAR BASE Consulting, Inc.
mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: -----
To: "RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)" <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 06/19/2013 05:09PM
Subject: Re: SEU and V7R1.

No! No! Not the car analogy again! :)

1 year support/maintenance is part of the price - same for each of the licensing options.

Here's a link to a fixed-term license FAQ -

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/passportadvantage/Brochures_Quickguides_FAQs/Customer_Frequently_Asked_Questions_FTL_072905.pdf

First question has this line -

"These Fixed Term Licenses come with Software Maintenance included for the period of the license."

More info there - it's the basis for what I've said here, largely.

Vern

----- Original Message -----
On 6/19/2013 2:54 PM, Vern Hamberg wrote:
A fixed-term license would not have to phone home - the activation kit can certainly contain a date-after-which-not kind of thing.

Yes, but a fixed-term licence wouldn't have the annual maintenance,
would it?

Your WDSC was under an entirely different regime, too, as was CODE/400, so the comparison falls a bit for me.

Licencing for WDSC and Code was certainly different, if no easier to
grok. The WDSC licence was part of the umbrella 'Developer tool'
licence which included the compilers and SEU. 57nn-WDS had annual
maintenance, and failure to pay it meant that you couldn't get software
support or upgrades. Which is how we have people who are still on V4
something - and the software still works. Anyway, I agree that it
wasn't the best of analogies. I should have gone with a car :-)
--buck

----- Original Message -----
On 6/19/2013 1:06 PM, Booth Martin wrote:
If one does not pay the $400 does it stop working, or does it mean that
one is stuck working at that level forever?

On 6/19/2013 10:32 AM, Jon Paris wrote:
... I don't like that any more than anyone else - but at a cost of
about $400 a year for RDi I more than get my money's worth. ...

I haven't met any IBM software that phones home for licence
verification. That's not to say that they couldn't do it at some point,
but my experience is that the annual maintenance charge enables
upgrades, not actual use of the product.

So my educated guess is that you'd be stuck at the level you last
upgraded to. My WDSC still works as does my very old Code/400.
--buck



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