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Roger

Since the developers watch this list, I'm glad you said this - and you might want to go to the COMMON site and enter a requirement to this effect. You don't need to be a member, just get a login there.

Vern

On 3/11/2011 11:42 AM, Harman, Roger wrote:
If it was PTF'd back to 5.4 (if technically feasible), I think you might see a much higher interest in it. Getting to 6.1 really is a hurdle for many of us.


-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Klement
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:28 AM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
Subject: Re: Adoption of RPG OA

To begin with, it was something that could be accomplished (however
awkwardly) using subprocedures instead of F-specs. Second, IBM chose to
charge extra for it and release it separately. People evaluate it on
whether it has/hasn't caught on, because it's not part of RPG, it's a
whole separate product. Then, there's the controversy about whether (or
not) an F-spec type file is really a good way to interact with a modern
interface. And, finally, a lot of the community has struggled to get to
IBM i 6.1 or higher (vendor software hard to get for 6.1 for a long
time, development tools more expensive, object conversion required), and
IBM stupidly didn't make OA available for 5.4.

Barbara and her team did a fantastic job on the technical aspects of it
(IMHO), but as far as the business/sales/marketing point of view, IBM
has screwed it up in pretty much every way.


On 3/10/2011 8:49 PM, Lennon_s_j@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
RPG OA came out with a bang a year ago, and several vendors announced
tools, some of which looked very good. But it seems to have been
relatively quiet since. (Not to disparage articles by several people on
the list and discussions here...)

But has there been any adoption of RPG OA and the 3rd party vendor
handlers and tools? Is there a market developing that will sustain the
vendors? Anyone actually using a 3rd party handler, or even installed
one for evaluation?

Sam

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