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Yes. When one has tried, over and over, to persuade others in the merits of
his own ways, the fault is obviously with the others. It could not possibly
be related to presentation or ability to teach/lead. There was an
instructor with that attitude at a university I attended. He wasn't there
long, though. Keep telling yourself this, John.

My experience, pleasantly, has been otherwise. Over and over.

Dennis Lovelady
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but together can decide that nothing can be done."
-- Fred Allen


My experience so far tells me that RPG Programmers are a> lazy bunch
(exceptions prove the rule).

That's - very frustrating - my experience also for the last 20 years
working in RPG environments.Trying to "persuade" (which to begin with i
shouldn't have to do) an RPG programmer to learn something "new" is
like pulling a dead horse.
I already gave up on this, and now i'm looking for an alternative
development career because the AS/400 is really the best business
platform out there but the development tools/people morale etc is
pathetic. There is no future anymore in this platform.
From: Mihael.Schmidt@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Open Access for RPG
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 06:24:42 +0000


The truth is that the major part of iSeries programmers dosn't fit
in to
iNetwork, Midrange.com or whatever - they are highly skilled in
their
applications and may be resonable good programmers, but is either
not
aware, has no experience or has fear to join a forum amoung so
called
experts that in best case gives them three lines of code (with a
lot
is expected to be understod) where the actually wanted an example.

In other words, they are "holistic", programming is only a matter
of
reaching the overall goal - to do their job or achive their goals.

If you look back in the EASY400GROUP, Jon, you will find that many
of
my examples is based on "working examples" or actual solutions, I
never
answer people with one statement of code where they have to figure
the
rest out for themselves.

Join a forum/channel/newsgroup which handles some mainstream
programming language and provide a working example for some trivial
task/question and you'll find yourself being slapped for that. Why?
Because joining a forum/channel/etc is also about learning and not just
about letting other people do the work.

My experience so far tells me that RPG Programmers are a lazy bunch
(exceptions prove the rule).

Mihael
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