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True, that's why the 64k limit was important. One had to write their own subfile handlers (or whatever) but once you did that the method was easily transportable to other programs. I gave a session on this at COMMON ages ago; some people thought it couldn't be done, others, I discovered, had already figured out how to do it. Dennis, from his earlier reply, was apparently one of the latter. The screen panel was still array driven, Nick. No way around that. Hmm, now that I think about it, maybe there was using relative row numbers, but that, I think, would have been more of a headache than I would have wanted.

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I couldn't do subfiles on the S/34 and S36. We had to use arrays.



Thanx,

Nick



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Yeah, on the /34/36 you could only do page-at-a-time subfiles because of
the 64k program size limit.

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Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:10 PM
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Jeff,

This might explain it. My experience is S/34, S/36, and AS/400 et al. I
don't know what my coworkers experience is, maybe they started out on a
S/38 and are remembering this situation. They did mention that they had
been told this way back in the beginning and they have been around for a
while.

Rick

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Subject: Re: Subfile performance question

Rick,
A very loooooong time ago, back in the early days of the S/38 (yes, I was
there on R0.5), the hardware was not fast enough to keep up with the OS
functions. Among those was subfile processing. Back then, there was in
fact a severe performance impact of letting the system handle any part of
the roll function, so we coded it ourselves.
Today, using the proper type of subfile, there is no reason to not let the
system handle at least the roll back function (provided that your prior
data is static).
A load all subfile, where the system handles everything, is good when you
have a limited amount of static data, and can get it to the user in a
timely fashion.

Hope this trip back in memory lane helps.

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