RE: Load a subfile with clients selected by user

-----Message d'origine-----
De : rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de Vern Hamberg
Envoyé : jeudi 12 novembre 2009 14:18
À : RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
Objet : Re: Load a subfile with clients selected by user

Hi David

There are limits, such as 9999 rows in a subfile - for
elements in an array, max is 32767 in v5r4 and before - over
16 million in v6r1.

An alternative to an array is a user space. Easiest way would
be to fill the user space with fixed-length entries,
incrementing a pointer for each entry by the entry's length.
You would then use the qsort API to sort it, then read it by
pointer to get as many as you can in the subfile at a time.
There are ways to handle paging beyond the subfile limit of
9999 with this technique, too.

Filling a user space via pointer is very fast.

Vern

David FOXWELL wrote:

Hope this thread still works!

Hi Vern, I'm back on this subject again and I'm looking

into your idea of using an intermediate array. Now to do
this, I'd have to put all the clients into the array in one
go, otherwise there'd be no way of sorting them. That means
having an array that will hold about 50 000 records. I
haven't looked, but maybe an array can't be that big. Then,
there's the issue of the time taken to fill the array, sort
it and copy it to the subfile.

I don't think I'll have that problem with SQL.

Tell me if I'm missing something.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de Vern Hamberg
Envoyé : mardi 30 juin 2009 14:12 À : RPG programming on

the IBM i /

System i Objet : Re: Load a subfile with clients selected by user

Well, David, something is going to read those extra

tables, whether

you go with embedded SQL or native - either you or the SQL engine.
With native, I'm suggesting filling an array, then sorting

it, then

filling the subfile from it - probably.
I do this with some maintenance screens that have mixed

sorting, gets

me what I want - and that is even using SQL!!

Your description sounds simple enough - again, SQL has to do
something similar.

read Adresss-file;
dow not %eof(Address-file);
Chain address Client-address-file;
if %found(Client-address-file);
chain client Client-file;
if %found(Client-file) and [name-matches];
[do whatever you need to do - add data to subfile, or to
array, sort later];
endif;
endif;
read Address-file;
enddo;

And yes - this is a priming read - there is another way, so no
comments
required on that front. ;-)

As to a logical on client name, well, if you did the

innermost chain

on that logical, you'd have to compare the client. Maybe

you have a

logical on client AND name - then the innermost chain would be

chain {client : name} Client-file;

Then your if %found(Client-file); is all you need to determine
whether to continue processing.

This seems simple - easily maintained - and goes directly to the
files.
And if you do not need the data in the Client file, you

could use a

setll instead of the chain - this would not require the IO to
retrieve the actual data, only the IO on the index (the logical
file). Remember, when reading through an index, you have 2

IOs - one

for the logical file, one for the physical file it points

to - that

is a generalization, of course.

Anyhow, that seems easy enough. Am I missing something?

With SQL you

need a 3-way JOIN - it might work well but maybe not.
And if you put a sort on it by name, it still might not

use that name

index, because it will have to sort the result, probably.

Mock up the SELECT and run it in iSeries Access into

Visual Explain

and see what it does.

Vern

David FOXWELL wrote:

Vern,

I'v been thinking it over.
I'm kind of wishing I'd never discovered embedded SQL. I

think that the native solution would be complicated, less

efficient

and more difficult to modify.

For example, if a user wants all clients in Bradford with a

surname beginning with F :

Read Bradford addresses from address file,
For each address,
Read client numbers associated with that address

from client/address file

For each client at that address
Chain to client file and compare name.

In this case, the index on client name will never be used.

If I use the SQL solution, I'll effectively just read from

one file, ie a cursor that I'd have created.

* From: Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
* Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:22:25 -0500

David

If you go

SQL<http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l/200906/msg00445.html#
, you would be better off doing it all with SQL - I'd say use >
CHAINs or SETLL into the address file - if you have a logical over
postcode or the other fields, SETLL is enough to test

existence and

is very inexpensive in IO and

CPU<http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l/200906/msg00445.html#>.

You need several logical files, but you do, anyhow, to get

good performance with SQL.

SQL is not the answer for every situation, IMHO.

HTH
Vern

David FOXWELL wrote:
Hi, I have this tricky ( for me) problem.

We started off with a screen where a

user<http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l/200906/msg00445.html

#> could enter part of a client's name and a subfile would

then > be

shown with those clients matching the name entered. We

have a PF that contains clients that can be persons or

companies. In

that PF either client_name or company_name will exist for

a client,

but never both. A logical exists on company_name and another on
client_name. Depending on the user input, the program

decides which

logical to read from.
Recently, a third logical was created when the users

wanted to search

by maiden name.

Now, I've been asked to take into account

zip<http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l/200906/msg00445.html#

or postcode, town and date of birth into the equation. As

the addresses are in an adress file with an intermediate
client/address file needed to get from the client to the

address, it

is obviously no longer just a question of adding another

logical and

reading from that.

It looks like a case for SQL. It probably should have

started out that way but at the time embedded SQL was

unknown ( to us

).

I was thinking of leaving everything intact, as I don't

want to completely rewrite, but using SQL whenever one of the new
fields gets used by the user. In that case, I'd use the

user input to

create

cursors<http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l/200906/msg00445.h

tml#> and use these to populate the subfile. At the moment the >
subfile is charged one page at a time and pagedown or up

always reads from the PF.

If there are any flaws with this choice, maybe someone

would let me know. I'm a little worried having never used

a cursor to

go backwards and forwards and to populate a subfile. The

program will

be continually opening and closing cursors with the same name. I
think I need to manage when a user changes a field so that I don't
close the cursor unneccessarily. Are there any issues to

look out for

when opening a cursor, say C1 for SMITH then closing C1

and reopening

it for JONES of Birmingham, etc,etc.

I guess what I'm trying to say is am I at risk of any bad

surprises given that I have not a huge amount of

experience with such

use of SQL?

--
This is the RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
(RPG400-L) mailing list To post a message email:
RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list
options,
visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l
or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting,

please take a

moment to review the archives at
http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l.

--
This is the RPG programming on the IBM i / System i
(RPG400-L) mailing list To post a message email:
RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change
list options,
visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l
or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l.