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Well, i don't have a degree in CS.

So I guess you're right.

:)

Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:17:47 -0800
From: jamesl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Standards question: What is your feeling about %found&%eofvs.%found(file) & %eof(file) ?

john e wrote:
I don't think this is purely style, like indenting two or four
spaces. It's about a quite important principle and that is "don't
repeat yourself".

Funny: I have a Bachelor of Science degree in computer science, and I'm
fluent (or at least was fluent at one time) in (depending on whether or
not you count traditional BASIC and the QBASICs as separate languages) a
dozen HLLs and three different assemblers. I've probably forgotten more
HLLs than most programmers seem to have any interest in learning. By the
time I got out of high school, I knew BASIC (3 dialects) and FORTRAN
(WATFIV and IBM G1). The class I took almost 28 years ago (my freshman
year at the University), in structured programming was taught in Pascal,
and many of the more advanced classes were taught in PL/I. I've dealt
with COBOL, and I've dealt with LISP, and I've written recursive descent
parsers (including two in ILE RPG!).

Not once in two years of high school programming, five years at the
University, or the over two decades since I got my sheepskin have I ever
heard of any "quite important principle" of "don't repeat yourself."

I've certainly heard that if you're going through the same non-trivial
steps, in the same order, two or more times, you should probably
consider a subroutine, but I've never once heard of the notion that
explicitly referring to the same file more than once constitutes
"repeating oneself," or that doing so was in any way undesirable.

To repeat myself:

I. Have. Never. Once. Heard. Of. Such. A. Notion.

Furthermore, if implicitly referring checks for EOF or FOUND to the most
recent file accessed were such a good idea in the general case, then why
is it that I can't think of any other language (with the possible
exception of C, which is a language notorious for not only giving
programmers enough rope to hang themselves, but helping to tie the knot)
where this happens?

To reiterate what I said before, this "implicit default to the last file
accessed" is extremely useful if you've got, say, a bunch of file access
statements in a SELECT structure, each accessing a different file, but
when checking for FOUND and/or EOF, you don't care which one you'd
accessed. But in general, allowing those functions to default to the
last file accessed will always open up the question of "is this checking
the file I think it's checking?", a question that will hopefully be
trivial in most cases, but certainly not in all.

--
James H. H. Lampert
Touchtone Corporation

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