RE: RPG, 10 years from now

Wow!  That's an excellent concept!  Making RPG available to run, with the
same power and ease of use, on a piece of crap 486 under Linux instead
restricting it to run only on the multi-gabillion dollar iSeries. 

I like that idea a lot!  I'd buy it.  You'd also see a LOT! Of teenagers and
hobbyists using the language then too if it didn't cost them their college
tuition fund to purchase it and the hardware to run it on.

Someone tell George Farr about this. :-)



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From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Bob Cozzi
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:11 AM
To: 'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: RE: RPG, 10 years from now

Did you just say you want RPG to run on *NIX and Windows?
Me too, but as recent as 5 years ago a company had a version that ran
everywhere, supported DDS and much of CL and compiled native objects, not a
huge
emulated runtime environment. Problem was, nobody purchased it.
I know if RPG IV ran on Linux, I would drop the AS/400 iSeries System i5
like a
hot potato.  You'd only need RPG IV and externally described file, which
could
be created via DB2 SQL calls. I don't need DDS. 

-Bob Cozzi
www.RPGxTools.com
RPG xTools - Enjoy programming again.


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On
Behalf Of albartell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:40 AM
To: 'RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: RE: RPG, 10 years from now

>One of the reasons that I think RPG will remain niche is that it's really
only used on one combination of hardware and software - the IBM midrange.

Look at what IBM has allowed to be entertained in our minds.  Think about
it.  What other language is out there that only runs in one app server, and
only runs on one operating system.  Going back to my previous posting...
What if IBM completely revamped their approach to marketing RPG and the new
features they are putting into the compiler.  I don't think it would be far
fetched to say that in two years time they could be getting A LOT of new
blood coding in RPG (or whatever they would call it), which equates to a lot
of new sales.

Are you listening IBM? 
Quit doing new languages like Net.Data and EGL that YOU KNOW will die off in
5 to 10 years. Invest in RPG like has never been done before. Folks, we are
on the down turn of the hype of platform independence languages (i.e. Java).
Is platform independence good?  Absolutely! But now that it has been swished
around in my mouth the past 5 years I am not so concerned about it.  I would
much rather be cornered into a platform with second to none
stability/reliability (which is reiterating Michaels last point), with
second to none ease of programming (yet to come), which would then in the
end give me second to none time to market.

Aaron Bartell





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On Behalf Of Michael Ryan
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:38 AM
To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: RPG, 10 years from now

One of the reasons that I think RPG will remain niche is that it's really
only used on one combination of hardware and software - the IBM midrange.
That's fine with me - I like being there.

On 5/26/06, Christen, Duane J. <dchristen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I see two general outcomes for RPG in the next 10-20 years:
>
> 1. RPG, like Cobol now, will be a fading memory with fewer and fewer 
> instillations using it. With the constant increase in horse power from 
> servers Java, C#, and other/new languages of the moment being able to 
> perform transaction processing with reasonable effectiveness. Altho I 
> don't think it will completly die for decades to come.
>
> 2. RPG will continue to be improved, along with the System i, and will 
> be recognized as one of, if not the greatest, transaction processing 
> languages available.
>
> Duane Christen
>
> On 5/26/06, steema@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <steema@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > HI - This is a Friday topic. But, I was having a conversation w/ the 
> > company Controller. He indicated that he was concerned regarding the
> long
> > term support for the RPG language. He is not an IT guy, but is very 
> > industry savvy.
> >
> > I immediatly laughed and said no way, the support will always be there.
> >
> > Then he got me to thinking, what if he is right?
> >
> > Does anyone else share this concern?
> >
> > Steve
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