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Wow- how Rochester can alienate the stragglers....I think IBM should take a look at the number of purchases of newer hardware to run s36ee or a mix of s36ee & native that go on every year. IBM doesn't ask & doesn't know. I would say of the 10 or so new hardware
installs last couple years, 95% have had some s36ee still running.
Can I assume the PRPQ will have a cost?
Is IBM's cost to maintain the old compilers such that it will push away
the potential thousands of stragglers that upgrade in next few years.

Can I ask out there - how many have s36ee still running somewhere?
And how will your management react when told what IBM is doing?

I work with a software co with 15 or so customers, running a couple AS436's, iSeries 800's an old 720, and a few 170's. All need upgrading. All will balance the software cost
to move out of s36 code vs total non-ibm platform replacement. (and all have
previously refused to consider any charge to modernize code.. we did try..)
It used to be all AS436's and we upgraded them to the 800's and 170's when they were current/new boxes. None were used hardware upgrades. All like getting 5-7 or more years
on a box. Many are looking at i5's...
jim franz


----- Original Message ----- From: <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:27 AM
Subject: Death of RPG38 and RPG36 -and- more!


Check out the article at
http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh020606-story02.html

Quoting from the article:
"First up, IBM says that WebSphere Development Studio for iSeries V5R4
will be the last release to ship with RPG II and COBOL compilers that are
compatible with the System/36 and RPG III and COBOL compilers that are
compatible with the System/38. IBM is recommending that customers who have
deployed System/36 and System/38 applications in the S36EE or S38EE
emulation environments to switch to ILE RPG and get it over with. IBM did
say that these old compilers would be available as a non-warranted PRPQ in
the next release of i5/OS, but this is not a place you want to go."

I assume that means that source types CBL36, CBL38, RPG36 and RPG38 will
no longer compile.  What about RPG?  That would be nice also.  Something
to force the major vendors to revamp to RPGLE.

In order to give people more time to prepare IBM really needs to put this
at
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/support/iseries/planning/upgrade/futuresftwr.html

The words already out, so it's not like putting the information there will
steal the thunder from the many nice enhancements in V5R4.

Rob Berendt
--
Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com

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