Re: To ride The Cycle or not to ride (was Re: INZSR weirdness)

Please excuse me, but this kind of talk just BLOWS my mind...  Maybe
I have been at this to long...   I guess I am not young any more,
only 43...  I started college 1980, in Montana, on a rodeo
schoralship using a S34. Came back home to Indiana and landed a job
using a couple of S34, before replacing them with a S36 for a couple
of years, before they brought in the silverlake, AS400.  I even
supported a client which up until a few years back used a S32 for
their GL. They are now on some network package.  I count myself
blessed, because I started out early in the RPGII days, but missed
the punch cards.  

You have trouble reading code to decifer it...  We had debug, but not
the easy to use one we got today.  Everything was conditioned with
indicators and used the cycle. You got a printout, template, and one
line editor, SEU.   I guess I like the challenge of getting into
someone head.  I would rather modify before creating new...  Granted,
I have been in a lot of garbage code and wanted (have) restructured
it.   It is fun updating code, ripping pages of arrays that can today
be handled with string functions and eval statements or subfiles. 

This has been a great trip down memory lane and fun reading all of
the comments.

Eurrat Saylor, Jr.
End of the Trail  
Walkerton, In  

---- Original Message ----
From: ggundermann@xxxxxx
To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: To ride The Cycle or not to ride (was Re: INZSR
weirdness)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:48:49 -0500

>Yes, I do rewrite.  I once quoted a customer 2 hours to modify a
>report and 
>took 2 days before I gave up and rewrote it.  Using debug, I could
>not 
>follow the cycle flow-chart and see how things were happening the way
>they 
>were. 
>
>Just because RPG heritage had the cycle is no reason to keep it. 
>This 
>'feature' is a negative feature if you ask me.  I've only been on the
>S/38 & 
>AS/400 for 20 years so I'm sure folks with many more years than I
>will 
>dissagree.  Just my opinion. 
>
>Glenn Gundermann 
>
>rick baird writes: 
>
>> word. 
>> 
>> It's rare that any RPG programmer won't run into a cycle program at
>> least several times in his career.  do the anti-cyclists or
>> cycle-deprived rewrite them everytime they have to modify one? 
>> 
>>> I feel that RPG programmers should have at least a
>>> basic understanding of the cycle even if they never use it. After
>all it is
>>> still a feature of the language.
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