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Hi Ken,

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If Larry and I worked at the same company, and he used his utility to take over one of my jobs and had it delete an object, then *I* deleted the object. If object auditing is turned on and you looked the audit record for the deletion, it would show deleted by me. There would be no clue that Larry was the one who instigated it, except the program name might show the name of his exit program, but even then there would be no way to know from that audit record who it was that actually used the utility.
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...and the deletion of the object caused the application to crash, and the company lost $millions? Would you still insist that "you" deleted the object? :-)

I agree with you about the way it works, I wont argue that point - on a system level it's the user running the job that performs the action. Or rather, the action is performed under the user profile that runs the job. I've never argued otherwise. The problem here, as you pointed out, is that the audit trail is broken - that's the big security concern for me. You'd have to prove it "wasn't" you that deleted the object when all evidence indicates that you did.

Having said all that, it's been a really useful tool for me over the years (whichever way it works). It can still bel useful, even if it's only used as a development tool - to help debugging batch jobs.

This is quite a good topic. Makes you think.

Have a good weekend.

Cheers

Larry Ducie



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