Re: RPGIII to get a facelift?

>OV/400...And there are several machines stuck at V4R5 because of the
> programmers reaction to it.
For all the sites with OV400 - i will bet 99% it's a management decision,
and
to them it's probably no different than replacing an older but working piece
of
machinery for a new one (with more options). I'm replacing one of those OV
sites next month with a new 520, costing them thousands to rewrite a working
application. It will do more than it did before, and users will like it
better, and
for many other reasons it will be better, but management still hates that
they
had to pay to rewrite a working app. IBM supplied no reasonable options
for very small shops to replace OV, and a few vendors came to market with
offerings, all costing thousands. When we are done, 17% of the total upgrade
cost will be that OV app.
jim

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> IBM gave people several years notice about OV/400 and still people didn't
> convert.  And there are several machines stuck at V4R5 because of the
> programmers reaction to it.  The same would happen, on a much larger
> scale, if they dropped RPG/400.
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> However, as it has been previously stated.  People who don't spend money,
> just aren't going to spend money.  Why market to them?  It's like
> advertising that your product is still supported on V2R1, when I bet you
> haven't had a new sale to such an account in 8 years.
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> Rob Berendt
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> You're on the money about the marketing (what marketing?).  First,
> market the product beyond "eServer" (whatever that means to CEOs).
> Whatever you call it, the AS/400-iSeries-i5 (gee, has the name changed
> this week?) is the best server on the planet...and only those of us that
> actually work on it actually know that.
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> I'm in the process of converting to RPG-IV because I believe that is in
> the best business interest of this company and fortunately have full
> support (and "only" about 1500 source members).  I'm doing this by
> myself and expect to be done in a few weeks.  Backward-compatibility was
> a good thing, but it may be detrimental in the long run.  I have never
> understood why a company would purchase a computer like the AS/400 to
> run their business, then not keep current with versions/releases or
> support (except where doing so would cause systems to stop working).
> It's like buying a new car and deciding that changing the oil is a waste
> of money...sooner or later, you find out why maintenance is important.
> I think the same is true for the language version.
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> I would have no problem if IBM chose to drop support of older versions
> of the language, giving companies a reasonable time to convert.
> Although, one could argue that 10 years should have been enough.  ;-)
> This could be a real boon to consultants, like the Y2K thing.  (Think
> David will mind if we post rates here???)
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> Bruce Guetzkow
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