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They may not have a compelling reason to learn it now but there may come a
time when they do.  At that point they will have to:
1.  Hurry to catch up
2.  Have a harder time understanding the difficult things because they are
still mastering the basics
3.  Missed potential opportunities to use the new options because the old
stuff was good enough

Trust me, I know.  It also reminds me of my 6-year old son who refuses to
eat some really good food because "it's yucky" (he can tell by the way it
looks).  After all, what could possibly beat peanut butter and jelly and
chicken nuggets?


Dave Parnin
Nishikawa Standard Company
Topeka, IN  46571
daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx





                                                                                
                               
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Keith,

I'd say 3,4,5, and 6 due to 3,4,5 ;-)  Of those, I feel 4 is the biggest.

Till recently, RPG IV was used here like RPG III.  They'd do CVTRPGSRC to
convert RPG III to RPG IV syntax, but it was still RPG III programming.
Even new development was RPG III using RPG IV syntax.

Everybody here now has some outside experience and knowledge of RPG IV
except the one who has been here 15+ yrs. So we've started to move forward,
but we can't leave this guy behind.


Charles


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Carpenter [mailto:CarpCon@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 12:50 PM
> To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
> Subject: Re: Where to send die-hard RPG III programmers?
>
>
> I'd like to hear the diehard "why not" arguments for RPG400
> (RPG III) over
> RPG IV.
>
> I can think of some.
> 1. Stuck on some old pre-V3 system
> 2. Strictly doing maintenance work on a RPG III package and have been
> restricted by shop standards from using ILE.
> 3.  Not trained on RPG IV.
> 4.  Consider RPG IV technically unnecessary or inferior.
> 5. Too busy.
> 6. Not interested.
>
> This is not meant as a put down, but to get at why an RPG
> programmer would
> not be using RPG IV.  The answers will tell a lot about the
> person and/or
> their situation.
>
> It's been about 10 years since the introduction RPG IV (V3R1
> and ILE).  I
> don't know any RPG programmer now that hasn't worked with RPG
> IV and has
> seen some of the benefits.
>
> There are many are not using the more advanced features which
> is a reason
> for more education.   Training, conferences and books are all fine.
>
>
>
> Keith
>
>
>
>
>
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