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Believe me Charles, the "whys" are answered and presented as well...
opinionated bunch?  I think so.
:)

-Bob Cozzi


-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:41 AM
To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Where to send die-hard RPG III programmers?

Scott, Bob, Tim, et al...

Thanks for the feedback.  One concern I didn't see directly address by most
is: would RPG World be a good place or the best place to learn WHY to use
RPG IV and not just HOW to use it?

Tim directly addressed it with, "Lots of good stuff, with much focus on the
benefits of service programs, sub-procedures, and other newer techniques."

Anybody care to expand upon this?

Thanks again,
Charles




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Klement [mailto:rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 4:22 PM
> To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries
> Subject: Re: Where to send die-hard RPG III programmers?
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> This past spring, at RPG World in Chicago, Paul Tuohy did a 
> whole series
> on learning RPG IV for RPG III programmers.  I would 
> definitely recommend
> that series, but I don't know if he's intending to repeat it 
> at the RPG
> World that's coming up towards the end of this month.  I 
> don't see it in
> the preliminary agenda -- but I'll let him answer. :)
> 
> There's still a lot of useful stuff on the preliminary 
> agenda, such as the
> definition spec, protototypes, date logic, expressions and BIFs, etc.
> These subjects are really the ones that people get stuck on 
> when making
> the move from III to IV.
> 
> Naturally, you'd want to be careful where you sent him.  If his first
> session on RPG IV is "Pointers and User Spaces" he's likely 
> to throw in
> the hat. :)
> 
> Another alternative is Bryan Meyers' upcoming Web class 
> entitled "RPG IV
> for RPG Programmers"  I haven't watched this class personally 
> so I haven't had
> a chance to form opinions of it.  What I can tell you is that it's an
> "e-Learning" session that runs over the Web, and that 
> orientation for the
> class needs to be done by Sept 7th.
> 
> If that interests you, there's more info here:
> http://www.iseriesnetwork.com/edu/e-learning//index.cfm?fuseac
tion=CourseInfo&section_id=1116

Aside from those two things, my only recommendations are books. I've got
some good ones listed here:
http://www.scottklement.com/rpg/howtolearn.html

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