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Scott, 

I have to disagree with you on that.

Starting to use ILE concepts in an existing application is asking programmers 
to reinvent the wheel. They have to spend time again in rewriting, redesigning 
their applications with a ROI of $0.00. 

You may blame the programmer, but the decision to make the revamp of the 
programmes is made by the management (negative perception? Perhaps.) Another 
good reason is the old die-hard shop standards (programmers had to stick to), 
that will never change.

And users are not that interested in the technically advanced (?) solution the 
programme has been written; they are interested in functionality, easy of  use 
and related price on value.

This is my post mortem on this dead horse, valued at 2 Euro cents, the maximum 
ROI.

Regards,
Carel Teijgeler

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On 26-8-04 at 11:03 Scott Klement wrote:

>> I am asking this because I am Java programer and fresh RPG programer and
>> most of RPG things I learned from IBM's student books and Sourcers Guide,
>> but my collegues (who code in RPG all their life) have totaly diferent
>> aproach that doesn't meet any ruels (described in RedBook) of advanced
>and  modern coding.
>
>Unfortunately, this is the sad state of RPG programming today. RPG
>programmers refuse to learn new techniques, refuse to modernize their
>code, refuse to modernize their user interfaces.
>
>This ultimately leads to a negative perception among users and management,
>resulting in the system to lose market share -- despite it's technical 
>superiority.




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