ILE vs CLI was: The pulse of the Nation

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Hans wrote:
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>Well, namespaces is another totally unrelated issue. And frankly,
>I'm surprised that more RPG programmers don't seem to think that's
>an issue.

I would broaden that stmt further and ask why iSeries programmers dont
demand that enhancements be made to ILE's now 10+ year old feature set.
Procedure overloading, namespaces and many other capabilities have been
proven to work well in languages in the time since ILE was introduced.
These features have to be added to ILE for IBM to compete against Microsoft.

I am spending time recently moving my WIN32 Visual C++ 6.0 code to C++ .NET.
( talk about compile errors moving code from release to release ! )
Microsoft is moving full speed ahead with something called CLI ( common
language infrastructure ).

go here and then try the "ecma CLI presentation" link:
http://www.ecma-international.org/news/ecma-TG5-PR.htm

CLI is not just Microsoft and .NET. It is now an industry standard that
addresses issues of how languages can be integrated in an application.  How
an RPG data struct can be used as a struct in C. Or how a C++ class can be
instantiated and its member functions called from within an RPG procedure.
( at least, that is what I think it is all about )

go here and search on "Herb Sutter".  He is the Hans of C++ .NET.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.lang.c%2B%2B.m
oderated

look for the thread "is c++ a dying tongue?"  Herb Sutter's posts address
how C++ is being changed to fit into the managed world ( a JVM like run
time ).  The point is that microsoft is doing a lot of work on its version
of ILE. And judging by the volume of posts in the thread, there is a lot of
interest.

IBM's focus is on Java and the JVM. The JVM is in affect the new ILE. My
concern with that is that all other languages, RPG, C and C++ cant run in
that environment. CLI appears to be better because it does allow all
languages to participate.

-Steve