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  • Subject: Re: Programing Question/Authority...
  • From: "alan shore" <SHOREA@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 14:13:15 -0400

If you read the IBM security reference manual, there are ways to capture this 
(plus other) information, already available at NO cost (except development 
time).

>>> <rob@dekko.com> 07/26/01 01:05PM >>>

Chris,

<snip> QSECOFR should be generating a report on objects with *owner
authority and an eye should be kept on how
they work.
<endsnip>

Many of the security tools will do some of this work for you.  - report on
objects with *owner authority.  An example is PentaSafe.  How they work,
may be a separate issue.




Rob Berendt

==================
A smart person learns from their mistakes,
but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes.


                                                                                
                                        
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Well, worse than that, really.
I remember wanting to make additional tools available to myself at one
shop.
So, I modified a program which was called by a *owner authorized program to
grant me authorities. This was a long time ago and I don't really recall
how
it worked out, but I remember feeling that the use of *owner authority
could
really be dangerous.

Now, I don't recall actually doing this but I recall thinking it out. We
had
a simple command line program (accept a line and QCMDEXC) for use by
programmers when working on menus which didn't offer command lines to
users.
I could simply modify a menu option used by someone with the authority I
was
after so that it would launch a compile to create a version of our cmdline
clp using *owner authority. Then later when I wanted to access stuff, I
could simply use that version of the program.

Now, I have seen a couple of places where using *owner authority worked out
and I know that it has great application, but I do think that it is one of
the things that should be audited closely. QSECOFR should be generating a
report on objects with *owner authority and an eye should be kept on how
they work.

Chris Rehm
javadisciple@earthlink.net 
If you believe that the best technology wins the
marketplace, you haven't been paying attention.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Boykie" <Midrange@KMTCINC.NET>
To: <RPG400-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: Programing Question/Authority...


> Or,
>
> opening up the door for a rogue programmer who thinks standards are for
> everyone else,,
>
> At 10:00 AM 7/26/2001, you wrote:
> >alan shore wrote:
> >
> ><Be careful which of the jobs adopt owner authority. It should only be
the
> >job that needs it. Any job submitted from this job will also adopt that
> >owners authority.>
> >
> >VERY good point Alan, because that could open up the door for rogue
stuff
> >if a programmer was unaware of that !
> >
> >Chuck
> >
> > >
> > > >>> "Phil" <sublime78ska@yahoo.com> 07/25/01 06:13PM >>>
> > > If it is submitted to batch, use adopted authority *OWNER on the pgm
> > that is
> > > submitted.
> > >
> > > The batch job will then have the authority of the object owner.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com 
[mailto:owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com]On 
> > > > Behalf Of Chuck Lewis
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 5:16 PM
> > > > To: RPG400-L
> > > > Subject: Programing Question/Authority...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Folks,
> > > >
> > > > Don't do this enough and can't for the LIFE of me figure it out...
> > > >
> > > > We are using 3rd party software and we can define "Fast Paths" that
let
> > > > user run programs we write outside of the 3rd party suite.
> > > >
> > > > I have written simple little RPG program that they call that
prompts
the
> > > > user for a date and then submits a CL to run the report. Initially
I
was
> > > > getting an error because the user is not authorized to the Submit
> > > > command. I fixed this with a Job Description. This second CL
creates
a
> > > > LF in QTEMP and then runs an RPG program to produce a listing. Well
now
> > > > they can't create the LF because the submitted job is running under
the
> > > > User Profile which does not have authority to do that.
> > > >
> > > > Is there an easy solution to this ? I've been buried in it now
(along
> > > > with juggling a BUNCH of other stuff) and have some ideas but
wanted
to
> > > > avoid reinvent the wheel !
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Chuck


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