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  • Subject: Re: Data mapper
  • From: Scott Klement <klemscot@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:58:29 -0500 (CDT)


Heh... I like that "whatever they're called this week".   In fact, this
week they're called "Peregrine".

Their new version is less than perfect, IMHO.   Some of the APIs don't
work right, the documentation is awful, you can no longer create your
maps on a green-screen terminal (you have to use software that only
works under MS-Windows on your PC to make the maps), etc.   I really
miss the 2.x versions, and (weeping) I miss Premenos!

Anyway...  

I'd certainly be interested in helping if someone wanted to start up an
open-source EDI translator project in RPG.   We could perform all the
functions that the commercial packages do, etc, if we all put our heads
together and worked on it...


On Tue, 15 May 2001 rob@dekko.com wrote:

> 
> Frankly I think that they should adopt one standard, be it:  ANSI X.12,
> EDIFACT, XML or whatever.  And no snickers from the peanut gallery about
> X.12 and standards being an oxymoron.  They should also bite the bullet and
> purchase a translator, such as Harbinger, or whatever they're called this
> week.  I base this on:
> 1)  They are looking at a project that is 'staring them down'.
> 2)  They are looking at sending and receiving documents.  I assume at some
> point they will actually try to please their customers, many of whom have
> probably adopted one of the above standards.  Thus you'll already have some
> knowledge of standards.
> 3)  While VAN's are almost prohibitively costly, they do provide some
> advantages:
>   a)  No dependence on each others hardware being up when doing data
> transmissions
>   b)  A warm fuzzy feeling that the data isn't being snooped because it
> isn't using the Internet.
> But using standards doesn't necessarily mean using a VAN.
> 4)  They already have business partners quarreling over where to place
> data.  Adopting a standard seems like a fair compromise.
> 5)  A translator package will provide a lot of error checking that you are
> adhering to standards.
> 6)  The flexibility of adding yet another document to send increases when
> using a translator versus 'roll your own'.
> 7)  You already have enough to program trying to figure out:
>   a)  How to extract data to send out.
>   b)  How to post data received back in.  In this interactive day and age,
> doing batch feeds can be a bit tricky.  Many canned software packages have
> little to no method of doing batch feeds.
> 
> 
> Rob Berendt
> 
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> Aaron,
> 
> Isn't this the problem that XML is trying to solve?  You can write your own
> parser in RPG and look for the keyword pairs instead of actual location
> within
> the document.
> 
> So, if one trading partner want's the PO to be printed with qty, item code,
> description and another wants item code, description, qty it doesn't
> matter.
> 'Where' becomes a moot point and everyone is happy.
> 
> "Bartell, Aaron L. (TC)" wrote:
> 
> > I have a project staring me down that requires me to send and receive
> > documents (PO's, Shipping Acknowledgements, Order Status) from multiple
> > companies.  My company currently reserves the right to have a standard
> for
> > sending as receiving documents but I don't think that will fly.
> >
> > We are using our own proprietary format to transfer the data which all of
> > the companies playing adhere to, but everybody has their own idea of how
> and
> > where the data should be put within this format.
> >
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