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  • Subject: Re: Simple Subfile question
  • From: Jim Langston <jimlangston@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:23:57 -0700
  • Organization: Pacer International

1. I have created subfiles in the past.  And they weren't as difficult as this
   one is.  Nor should they be.
2. I never said you don't need knowledge and experience.  I've been programming
   since I was 10 years old (literally) and am now 37 years old. I've been 
   programming professionally since I was 24 or so, about 13 years professional
   experience in many different languages on a few platforms.  Do I expect
   a middle school to be able to program the things I do?  No.  
3. What is my 13 years professional experience, and my 14 years unpaid 
experience,
   chopped liver?
4. Yes.  So why didn't they improve subfiles before giving it to us?  Or 
improving
   them over the years?

Regards,

Jim Langston

Rick Childers wrote:
> 
> Maybe they are design flaws and I have just gotten used to them.  But it is
> obvious that the mistakes that you were making, come from inexperience with
> AS400 subfiles.
>   You said "Well, why should I need that much experience to do subfiles to
> be able to do one?"
> 1. It doesn't take a programmer THAT MUCH experience to be able to create a
> subfile. (Unless your a hamburger shy of a Happy Meal) But the more
> experience you have with anything, the more tricks/tips you learn, and the
> better, more efficient you will be at it.  I didn't have to consult a manual
> to know what you were doing wrong with your code. Why? Because I made the
> same mistakes with my first as400 subfile program. By making those mistakes
> I learned the proper way to create a subfile.
> 2.  If you don't need knowledge or experience to program then any Middle
> School kid that knows what a mouse is could take your job. Or maybe even
> upper management writing their own programs. Personnaly I think we are all
> better off keeping mgmt using spreadsheets & the programs that WE create.
> 3.  You have to pay your dues.
> 4.  Anything worth while is worth waiting for.
> 
>    But hey, that's just an AS400 programmer's opinion.
> 
> >From: Jim Langston <jimlangston@conexfreight.com>
> >Reply-To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> >To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> >Subject: Re: Simple Subfile question
> >Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 09:58:56 -0700
> >
> >Well, why should I need that much experience to do subfiles to be able to
> >do one?  I understand that's the way they are, but why?  I don't have
> >this type of trouble with subfile type programs in windows.  In any
> >language,
> >C++, VB, Delphi.
> >
> >I consider it a design flaw.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Jim Langston
> >
> >Rick Childers wrote:
> > >
> > > You just need a little more experience with subfiles.  After a while,
> >when
> > > you have a subfile problem, you will know exactly how to fix it without
> >even
> > > giving it much thought.  Then you will be cruisin'.
> > >       Good luck,
> > > Rick Childers
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