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  • Subject: Re: eRPG mailing list (was; Future fo AS/400?? )
  • From: gcrane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:46:05 -0500



With respect, I disagree with your opinion Jim.  The RTFM response should not be
given on any list, but clear direction of what manual should be read.  This then
would not cause the entry level person to be afraid of asking a question.  I was
afraid to say anything in the very beginning and for months just read stuff.
Now that I have gotten to feel I know I can say what I think, my fear is gone.
But surely, the RTFM stuff had me running scared.




Jim Langston <jimlangston@conexfreight.com> on 01/16/2001 12:36:42 PM

Please respond to RPG400-L@midrange.com

To:   RPG400-L@midrange.com
cc:    (bcc: Gail L Crane/Johanson/JMC)

Subject:  Re: eRPG mailing list (was; Future fo AS/400?? )



Rob,

I think that a lot of people are afraid to ask, "How do I..." questions
a lot in fear of getting negative feedback.  Someone asks, "How do I create
a web page in RPG" and will a lot of the times get RTFM responses.

With a list dedicated to eRPG people will be more open to ask questions
relating to the very confusing world of CGI, HTTP, and RPG that's all
intermixed.

I actually know of a programmer who had never touched an AS/400 who's shop
got one, and inside of 2 months of being introduced to RPG had a functioning
interactive web page up and running.  This was back when V3R7M0 was the
latest and greatest.

We need to get used to thinking outside of the box.

I think a new eRPG list would help us out, and we would get more questions of
a "I have no idea where to start" nature.

Regards,

Jim Langston

"Bartell, Aaron L. (TC)" wrote:
>
> Well I think we definitely are ahead 50 to 1, or 50 of us to 1 of Rob;-)
>
> Who is the moderator for this list?  Can you put in a request to Midrange to
> make this change.
> (man I fell like a _user_ now.  I haven't been on this side of the spectrum.
> he he)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rob@dekko.com [mailto:rob@dekko.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:51 AM
> To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: eRPG mailing list (was; Future fo AS/400?? )
>
> I would be concerned that it would be specializing the list too much.  Why
> not a subfile in rpg list?  Why not an embedded SQL in RPG list?  Why not a
> S/36 RPG list?
>
> Also, this would cut down on the exposure that others would receive to
> programming CGI.  There are some shops which may not use it now, but, some
> employees might see the light if exposed via this list.
>
> I do not feel that the amount of CGI discussion is distracting to RPG in
> general.  Does anyone object to the volume of e-rpg discussions on the rpg
> list in general?
>
> What would qualify something as E-RPG?  The use of the CGI routines?  The
> use of net.data?  The use of sockets?  The use of SQL?
>
> We already have people who fire off questions to the RPG list which are
> better off left at midrange-l, (and vice versa).  Now are these same people
> going to fire off questions to all lists in the hope of getting a fast or
> better answer?
>
> Who would subscribe to the e-rpg list and not the rpg list?  Gee, if there
> is alot.  And I assume that the 'sharper' programmers are there.  Then see
> the above paragraph.
>
> Who would subscribe to the rpg list and not the e-rpg list?  Did you
> respond to the affirmative that you felt the amount of CGI discussion is
> distracting to RPG in general?
>
> And now I think I have successfully opened the flood gates for a bunch of
> email clutter not germane to rpg.  Sorry, but I felt the questions needed
> to be asked.  Especially regarding exposure to new techniques.
>
> Rob Berendt
>
> ==================
> Remember the Cole!
>
>
>
>                     jpcarr@TREDEGAR.C
>
>                     OM                       To:     RPG400-L@midrange.com
>
>                     Sent by:                 cc:
>
>                     owner-rpg400-l@mi        Subject:     eRPG mailing list
> (was; Future fo AS/400?? )
>                     drange.com
>
>
>
>
>
>                     01/16/01 09:14 AM
>
>                     Please respond to
>
>                     RPG400-L
>
>
>
>
>
> I think it would be a great idea.    I have been doing eRPG for a few
> months now and I am very happy with what I have learned and what I have
> done.    Is it an end all be all?   No,   Not any more than a Subfile
> program is or a VB talent is.
> But,  It is a good place to start for the AS/400 crowd.
>
> I would join the list if there was one.
>
> John Carr
>
> Since the future is happening now...
> What do y'all think of starting an E-RPG mailing list?
> The list could be specifically for browser based
> programming, sockets, back-end business rules, so forth and
> so on.
>
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