RE: Re[2]: duplicate record Id's in multi user environment

My concern is not that two people can read the data area at the same time.
My concern is that writing the data area requires a synchronous disk write.
If a physical IO is required, I think that my timings are correct - less
than 1 millisecond for a read or write, between 3 and 4.5 milliseconds for
average latency depending on rotation speed.

A read cache can reduce the read time and a fast write cache connected to
the disk drive will reduce the synchronous physical write time to a small
value but, under certain circumstances, a large machine can overwhelm the
caches.  Then, when the load is the greatest, the technique doesn't keep up
and the write time for the data area goes from sub 1 millisecond to between
3 and 15 mills.  That really chokes up the system.

I understand that each user waits for the previous one to release the data
area.  In fact, that is the problem.  If enough users wait in line for the
data area, you will be able to measure the response time.  If it gets really
bad, you will be able to see the jobs slow down.  Last January, I had a
measurement of a single physical IO operation that took 8 seconds to
complete.  The data was captured on a 12-way machine using SMTRACE.

If all of this is true, how can you see 400 per second?  Blocking, write
cache, mirrored or unprotected disk.  Since you are incrementing the value
in the program, not using the data area, you aren't forcing a synchronous
write for each record.  Try it again with force write ratio equal to 1 and
tell me what happens.

I am not trying to dissuade people from using this technique, it will work
just great most of the time.  I offer a mild warning that it can bite you
under certain pretty rare circumstances.  If people don't know about the
teeth, they can spend a lot of diagnostic time looking at the wrong thing.
The key symptom for this one is high disk queuing times and CPU utilization
and job throughput drops.  You will also see very noticeable lock wait times
on the data area (lock report).  The drive where the data area resides gets
very busy - wrkdsksts shows one very busy drive.  SMTRACE shows a large
number of physical writes for the data area.  This can be aggravated if the
writes also require a seek.

Richard Jackson
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-|-----Original Message-----
-|From: owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com]On
-|Behalf Of Eric N. Wilson
-|Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 11:21 AM
-|To: Richard Jackson
-|Subject: Re[2]: duplicate record Id's in multi user environment
-|
-|
-|Hello Richard,
-|
-|Sunday, October 15, 2000, 8:15:08 AM, you wrote:
-|
-|> Ladies and gentlemen:
-|
-|> Please beware of this technique in a very high-volume situation
-|- it will
-|> work most of the time but it is a problem in high volume.
-|
-|Richard, when you use the technique as I described with locking the
-|data area etc you should not have any trouble in a high volume
-|situation. This is because only one job is going to be able to lock
-|the data area and the changed data is flushed to disk prior to the
-|lock being released. Then the next job that is waiting on the lock
-|will be able to acquire the lock and do the same... Each time the
-|trigger flushes the data area and explicitly unlocks it.
-|
-|Or at least that is my understanding ( I think this has been the
-|behavior for as long as data areas have existed ). I have been using
-|this technique for quite some time and I have added more than 400
-|records per second in some tests of a very simple trigger that just
-|auto incremented the integer key of the table.
-|
-|Thanks
-|Eric
-|
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