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  • Subject: Re: PDM/SEU
  • From: "L. S. Russell" <leslier@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:54:38 -0500

I have used Code/400, and Flex Edit. Like I said, SEU is there out of
the box basically. The minor productivity enhancement would never
outweigh the overall cost of learning and implementing a new editor. By
low cost, I mean low overall cost, that is cost spent in implementing a
new development environment, teaching yourself and others to use the new
environment, and cost of ownership. Only after the new system is fully
implemented and the involved developers have become adept with it can
you begin to tabulate productivity increase.

P.S. 
I have very rarely seen anything rude on this list, and in most cases
the one being rude was me. 

Jon.Paris@hal.it wrote:
> 
>  >> Whatever productivity gains you may find with the ability to cut and paste
> you still lose time when trying to correctly position RPG source.
> 
> Leslie, I don't wish to be rude but perhaps you should look at how Code/400 
>and
> other AS/400 editors work before we continue this discussion.
> 
>  >> The day someone gives me a low cost editor with promptable source records 
>on
> the PC I will switch too.
> 
> That day has been here for some years (depending on your defintion of "low
> cost") - Code Studio from Cozzi Research if currently a free download for the
> beta. The IBM and Aldon products are both available for free trial (and for 
>the
> IBM version "trial" can last a long time).
> 
> _All_ of the AS/400 related editors (as far as I know) address the problems 
>you
> mention and do it _way_ better than SEU.  Code/400 for example (and I suspect
> the others too) actually know what the Tab key is for!!  When I hit tab on a C
> spec it moves from factor to factor correctly.  When I do it on a D spec it
> moves correctly.  When I hit tab in SEU it goes .... wrong!
> 
> Prompting works the same as in SEU but better since the selection of the 
>correct
> prompt is much simpler.  If I hit F1 on an op-code it shows me the page from 
>the
> manual.  If I comment a line out it changes color and I don't waste time
> debugging comment lines .... etc. etc. I am only scratching the surface here 
>and
> not even mentioning being able to double-click on an erromessage and have the
> editor positioned on the field ......
> 
> I am _not_ a fan of GUI for everything - but I would never give up Code/400 
>for
> _any_ version of SEU no matter how much it was enhanced.  To quote Charlton
> Heston <g> ...........
> 
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