RE: PDM/SEU

Qualify:  Are you talking all of client access or just 
the 5250 interface?  I agree that the copy/paste work 
differently, but only in 5250.  What is slick about 5250 
is the ability to copy a column.  I find myself pasting 
tables from my email into CALL QCMD - F11. And then 
copy/pasting a column from that into the other grey screen 
application I am trying to paste into.  

My question is why does MS have a picture of a clipboard 
that says paste when you hold your mouse over it, and Lotus 
has a picture of glue paste that says edit paste when you hold 
your mouse over it?  I always thought that Lotus was more 
intuitive.




colin.williams@technocrats.co.uk on 05/30/2000 10:51:28 AM
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Sorry to digress a bit but, theres one area where I always thought Uncle
Bill always got it right. 

The User Interface. 

Even though the programs have been buggy and had many features that you
would never use, they have always looked good. Why is it many of the non
- Microsoft products that run on windoze never seem to look quite right,
even though they may have the features. 
Look at Client Access, it has never really been a good fit, has it. Just
does not seem as visually slick as many of the Microsoft products. And
why does CA copy and paste use different keys to every other windoze
app?

All I'm saying is that for non techies, the look and feel of the app is
much more important.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon.Paris@hal.it [mailto:Jon.Paris@hal.it]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:03 PM
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Subject: Re: PDM/SEU




 >> SEU is has *NOT* outlived its usefulness.

Perhaps I should have said "In my opinion ......" which it is.  
No matter how
good, bad, or indifferent Windoze is, the productivity gains 
from using a PC
based tool like Code/400 outweigh it.  I am no fan of MS 
products as anyone who
knows me will attest and I hope that Code will be available for 
other platforms
in the future.  Windoze is reality - I don't have to like it 
but I fought
against it for many years but marketing hype clearly beat out 
function and
common sense.  That is reality - I have had to learn to accept it.

Regardless of my opinion or yours - it is a simple fact of life 
that as far as
IBM is concerned SEU is dead.  They have made their last 
enhancement to the tool
in V4R2 which was to give those of you who wanted to remain in 
the green screen
world the opportunity to add your own functions to the editor.  
No matter how
much you hate PCs, Billy Boy, etc. it won't change that.

Personally I'm happy - even with regular Windoze crashes I'm 
personally more
productive with Code than with SEU/SDA/etc.  You can hear the 
screams for miles
on those occasions when I have to use SEU.

 >> much less have an outrageously expensive and not much more 
useful product
like Code/400 installed on each of these PC's

The expensive part IBM are taking care of.  See the V4R5 
announce and watch for
other announcements.  "not much more useful" - I'm sorry but to 
me that just
tells me you have no idea what the product can do.


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