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  3. April 2000

Re: external *PRTF


""Cheat Sheet"

Can you share it,May be a good starting point.I have some stuff coming up in 
RLU.

Rajan

>From: dbryant@banpharm.com
>Reply-To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
>To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
>Subject: Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the  
>diffe  rence!!!)
>Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:10:14 -0400
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>I started using RLU back in 1993 (I think), I didn't know anything at all 
>about
>external printer files at the time (migrated from S/36 to AS/400). Midrange
>Computing puplished a "Cheat Sheet" (if you will), for the commands and 
>"how to
>use RLU".  It was pretty easy (especially for a dummy like me) to follow.   
>I
>can create a new report layout or change a report in just minutes and they 
>look
>very nice. I probably would have been very discouraged without the cheat 
>sheet
>though.
>
>The other week I showed a co-worker how to use RLU, (he has been 
>programming
>much longer than I) and he was very excited and impressed. I think I have 
>him
>hooked on it now.
>
>My 2 cents worth.   : - )
>
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>|        |          Phil.Conibere@tgb.to|
>|        |          yota.co.uk          |
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>|        |          04/11/2000 09:44 AM |
>|        |          Please respond to   |
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>   |       Subject:     Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE   |
>   |       RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the          diffe     |
>   |       rence!!!)                                        |
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>Interesting, I didn't think many people used RLU because it's so 
>unfriendly.
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>dbryant@banpharm.com on 11/04/2000 13:47:01
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>Please respond to RPG400-L@midrange.com
>
>To:   RPG400-L@midrange.com
>cc:    (bcc: Phil Conibere/ISD/ToyotaGB)
>bcc:  Phil Conibere/ISD/ToyotaGB
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>Subject:  Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the
>       diffe    rence!!!)
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>Have you used RLU lately?  It is absolutely GREAT!!  O specs (ugly), might 
>as
>well be an RPG-II program.
>With RLU, no worries about end positions, page overflow, line spacing or 
>even
>knowing the field lengths. With RLU, you can quickly center a field. You 
>can use
>the REFER option for RLU to get the field attributes for you. You can copy, 
>move
>and delete fields with a quick function key sequence. Even highlight fields 
>and
>underline (you can even use indicators to control the different functions
>available). But most of all I love the fact that RLU will output your 
>TODAYS
>date and time, and the page number with NO RPG coding at all.   Also you 
>can
>print a "Sample" prototype report to see how your report looks on paper.
>RLU is cool!!!
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>IMHO.....
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>|        |          "Jim"        |
>|        |          <jcannon@anti|
>|        |          gua.com>     |
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>   |       Subject:     Re: external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE   |
>   |       RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the diffe   rence!!!)  |
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>very well said! I agree!
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>From:               "Bale, Dan" <DBale@lear.com>
>To:                 "'RPG400-L@midrange.com'" <RPG400-L@midrange.com>
>Subject:            external *PRTF (was: RE: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's 
>the
>diffe
>      rence!!!)
>Date sent:          Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:35:02 -0400
>Send reply to:      RPG400-L@midrange.com
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>Really don't mean to start a holy war here <g>, but...  IMNSHO:
>
>External printer files - BLEAAHHH!  If it's used in only one program, which
>is the case for 99.95% of all printer files I've ever come across, then 
>keep
>it in the RPG source!
>
>Granted, had IBM's braindead RLU been something closer to what RDA (by
>BugBusters???) is, then I might have formed a different opinion ten years
>ago.  Then again, since RDA allows you to choose between creating printer
>DDS specs or RPG O-specs, who knows?  There's really not a whole lot you 
>can
>do in DDS that can't be done in RPG O-specs for _most_ printer output.
>
>Honestly, though, it really isn't an "ease of design / development" issue
>with me.  For me, it's an "ease of maintenance" issue, since I do much more
>maintenance than new development.
>Internal: One source member. External: Two source members.
>Internal: No confusing where the printer file source is; it's right there.
>External: Ever been in a JBA shop? 'nuf said.
>Internal: One edit session, one compile.  External: Two edit sessions, two
>compiles.
>Internal: When RPG compile error occurs, you just need to look for errors 
>in
>the RPG source.  External:  When RPG compile error occurs, you need to 
>check
>the RPG compile listing, oops - not there, now go check the printer file
>DDS, make corrections, recompile DDS, recompile RPG.
>
>All that said, I always follow the shop standards.  I can do printer specs
>either way.
>
>Jon, please indicate why you think "it is just better and safer to describe
>these things externally."
>
>- Dan Bale
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:   Jon.Paris@halinfo.it [SMTP:Jon.Paris@halinfo.it]
> > Sent:   Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:08 AM
> > To:     RPG400-L@midrange.com
> > Subject:     Re: 'ILE RPG' or 'RPG IV' . What's the difference!!!
> >
> > PS. I don't think printer files have _anything_ to do with using them in
> > multiple places any more that display files do - it is just better and
> > safer to
> > describe these things externally.
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