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  • Subject: RE: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"
  • From: Colin Williams <Williamsc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:43:36 +0100

I think your wrong here. IBM do not want to sell software, they want to
sell hardware, and only sell software as a buy-product, because nobody
will buy hardware that has no software.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bob Cozzi [mailto:cozzi@rpgiv.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 5:32 PM
>>> To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
>>> Subject: RE: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Flipping burgers is a growth industry, yes.
>>> 
>>> But it is not that those IT managers know that the CF-specs 
>>> are coming at
>>> some point in the future. It is that today, they are 
>>> struggling to get there
>>> apps to work, updated, or moved to RPG IV or another 
>>> platform. To add
>>> another variable to the mix at this critical stage in the 
>>> life of the AS/400
>>> is disappointing to me.
>>> 
>>> IBM apparently doesn't care if you buy As/400 or an NEt 
>>> Finity server. They
>>> want to sell software. Well they never wrote an AS/400 
>>> piece of software
>>> that took over the world, so to me, that means we may have 
>>> a problem with
>>> the future of the AS/400.
>>> 
>>> Bob Cozzi
>>> 
>>> http://www.RPGIV.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com 
>>> [mailto:owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com]On
>>> > Behalf Of Dave Shaw
>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 6:17 AM
>>> > To: RPG400-L@midrange.com
>>> > Subject: Re: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM"
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Bob Cozzi <cozzi@rpgiv.com>
>>> >
>>> > >Buck,
>>> > >
>>> > >If tech savvy managers are not moving to RPG IV because 
>>> they don't have
>>> > >programmers who will be able to maintain it (as suggested in
>>> > several other
>>> > >posts) how will adding yet another flavor (the CF-spec) 
>>> enhance the
>>> > >manager's willingness to use RPG IV? I believe it will 
>>> not. It will have
>>> > the
>>> > >opposite effect, hence my dislike of introducing the CF-spec
>>> > today. Perhaps
>>> > >after a few years of RPG IV code, if people want to go 
>>> the 'RPG V' route,
>>> > >then sure, go ahead, but in today's world, CF-spec will 
>>> kill RPG IV.
>>> > >
>>> > >But, hey I only speak from talking to thousands and 
>>> thousands of RPG
>>> > >programmers, not a few dozen respondents from this 
>>> mailing list (as IBM
>>> > >apparently does).
>>> >
>>> > Please define "today", Bob.  My own personal definition 
>>> of "today" doesn't
>>> > include "the release after next", "late 2000 or early 
>>> 2001", or any of the
>>> > other availability dates that have been suggested as 
>>> being reasonable
>>> > forecasts for this thing actually hitting the streets.  
>>> If there's really
>>> > that many pointy-haired bosses who are concerned about an 
>>> optional feature
>>> > that they probably won't even be able to use for more than two
>>> > years, then I
>>> > think I better look into the burger-flipping opportunities that
>>> > are supposed
>>> > to be so plentiful these days.
>>> >
>>> > ---
>>> > Dave Shaw, Spartan Mills, Spartanburg, SC
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>>> > The opinions expressed may not be my employer's unless 
>>> I'm sufficiently
>>> > persuasive...
>>> >
>>> >
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