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The issue actually exists on both development and production. In
development you have multiple developers all testing different things and
the ability to keep things separate is important. In production you might
have different apps using different versions of a language. Deploying a
new partition to support multiple languages is overkill in my opinion.
Everything on the system can be the same ~except for~ the application
layer.

Besides the additional maintenance effort overhead with multiple partitions
there's also processor licensing costs that are incurred.

Aaron Bartell
litmis.com - Services for open source on IBM i


On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Paul Fenstermacher <
PFenstermacher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This sounds like what is being suggested is testing on a production
system. Pete mentioned he has different folders and just picks the one(s)
he wants to test with at that time. What if he accidently picks the wrong
folder and makes changes to production code/objects? With the advent of
cloud, we can deploy a partition in 10 minutes, having independent test
environments wouldn't be that difficult.

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I would think then you wouldn't have to worry much about updates to
Node
itself.

Multiple versions are still necessary because language features are
changing. For example, I might install the latest PTF with the new Node.js
version but I don't want to blindly accept the PTF won't cause issues with
my existing app. I would instead want to run all of my unit tests against
the new version without losing the old version. There's just too many
things that could go wrong (i.e. a deprecated API warning coming to full
fruition and is finally removed).


Aaron Bartell
litmis.com - Services for open source on IBM i


On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Kevin Adler <kadler@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"OpenSource" <opensource-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote on 07/20/2016
12:03:10 PM:

From: Aaron Bartell <aaronbartell@xxxxxxxxx>
To: IBMi Open Source Roundtable <opensource@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 07/20/2016 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [IBMiOSS] gmake: *** virtual memory exhausted. Stop.
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Are bugfix versions of Node.js that unstable/unpredictable that you
have
to really have to test this stuff?

Stability is only part of the reason. There's also changes to APIs
(iToolKit/DB adapter).


Ah, didn't know there were changes to iToolkit and DB adapter APIs and
the way they ship Node is different than how we ship Python, since we
separate out the packages in to separate PTFs from the Python runtime
itself.
That's unfortunate, though hopefully that gets sorted out at some point.
It would be beneficial to get these projects (iToolkit and adapter) in
npm, so you could use whichever versions you want. I would think then
you wouldn't have to worry much about updates to Node itself.

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